I guess in a spherical cow sense you could believe this without being antisemitic. But the evidence that Epstein ever trafficked any of his victims to friends in the first place is very weak. Additionally, if Epstein worked in an intelligence service, the natural party to that would be American intelligence services, who would actually be able to intercede on his behalf with prosecutors legally. And it’s unimpeachable that a large proportion of the public interest in this hypothesis has been the result of activism by explicitly antisemitic people like Nick Fuentes and Ian Carroll. So yes, I am inclined to believe that Tucker Carlson’s boosting of the theory, while maybe not being antisemitic in isolation, is indicative of a broader trend toward antisemitism on the right. It would not have happened five years ago.
But like, even if this doesn’t count, it’s obviously not just this one tweet, there’s a whole slew of content Tucker’s put out in the last six months that is clearly coming from this corner of the internet—even if he’s not being strategic about it himself.
To what extent do you differentiate between anti-Israel sentiment and antisemitism? It seems to be very common to conflate the two, especially with many in the pro-Israel camp actively pushing this notion that they are one and the same. And it’s interesting that your sole concrete example is an attack on the Israeli government. I’m not familiar with Fuentes or Carroll. But anti-Israel sentiment is definitely up dramatically, and there will surely be significant collateral damage due to this. I wonder if we have any metrics which do a good job of disentangling these two.
Also, Ari Ben-Menashe linked both Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell’s father to Mossad, so it’s not like this connection just came out of thin air.
Okay but I notice that I still don’t have an actual definition for what antisemitism is.
I guess as a starting point for figuring out what exactly we’re talking about I would first ask whether in Hume terms antisemitism is an “is”, an “ought”, or as you say a “spherical cow” which includes both?
Antisemitism [...] is hostility to, prejudice towards, or discrimination against Jews.
we’re talking about either emotions (hostility to) or actions (discrimination against).
If I take this definition, there are no “is” statements which are themselves antisemitic. Antisemitism is either a feeling or an action. Is that in line with your personal definition?
Could you define antisemitism as you mean it here?
I wouldn’t personally consider
to be antisemitic, but it seems you do? Or am I misinterpreting you?
I guess in a spherical cow sense you could believe this without being antisemitic. But the evidence that Epstein ever trafficked any of his victims to friends in the first place is very weak. Additionally, if Epstein worked in an intelligence service, the natural party to that would be American intelligence services, who would actually be able to intercede on his behalf with prosecutors legally. And it’s unimpeachable that a large proportion of the public interest in this hypothesis has been the result of activism by explicitly antisemitic people like Nick Fuentes and Ian Carroll. So yes, I am inclined to believe that Tucker Carlson’s boosting of the theory, while maybe not being antisemitic in isolation, is indicative of a broader trend toward antisemitism on the right. It would not have happened five years ago.
But like, even if this doesn’t count, it’s obviously not just this one tweet, there’s a whole slew of content Tucker’s put out in the last six months that is clearly coming from this corner of the internet—even if he’s not being strategic about it himself.
To what extent do you differentiate between anti-Israel sentiment and antisemitism? It seems to be very common to conflate the two, especially with many in the pro-Israel camp actively pushing this notion that they are one and the same. And it’s interesting that your sole concrete example is an attack on the Israeli government. I’m not familiar with Fuentes or Carroll. But anti-Israel sentiment is definitely up dramatically, and there will surely be significant collateral damage due to this. I wonder if we have any metrics which do a good job of disentangling these two.
Also, Ari Ben-Menashe linked both Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell’s father to Mossad, so it’s not like this connection just came out of thin air.
Okay but I notice that I still don’t have an actual definition for what antisemitism is.
I guess as a starting point for figuring out what exactly we’re talking about I would first ask whether in Hume terms antisemitism is an “is”, an “ought”, or as you say a “spherical cow” which includes both?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism
So
we’re talking about either emotions (hostility to) or actions (discrimination against).
If I take this definition, there are no “is” statements which are themselves antisemitic. Antisemitism is either a feeling or an action. Is that in line with your personal definition?