I honestly appreciated that plug immensely. We definitely need more bioshelters for many reasons, and as individuals who’d prefer not to die, it’s definitely a plus to know what’s out there already and how people are planning to improve what we currently have.
It strikes me that a semi-solid way to survive that scenario would be: (1) go deep into a polar region where it is too dry for mold and relatively easy to set up a quarantine perimeter, (2) huddle near geothermal for energy, then (3) greenhouse/mushrooms for food?
Roko’s ice islands could also work. Or put a fission reactor in a colony in Antarctica?
The problem is that we’re running out of time. Industrial innovation to create “lifeboats” (that are broadly resistant to a large list of disasters) is slow when done by merely-humanly-intelligent people with very limited budgets compared to the speed of just training bigger models for longer.
It doesn’t appear to be a closed system, like biosphere2 aspired to be from 1987 to 1991.
The hard part, from my perspective, isn’t “growing food with few inputs and little effort through clever designs” (which seems to be what the bioshelter thing is focued on?) but rather “thoroughly avoiding contamination by whatever bioweapons an evil AGI can cook up and try to spread into your safe zone”.
So this is a long ad for bioshelters? /s
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I honestly appreciated that plug immensely. We definitely need more bioshelters for many reasons, and as individuals who’d prefer not to die, it’s definitely a plus to know what’s out there already and how people are planning to improve what we currently have.
It strikes me that a semi-solid way to survive that scenario would be: (1) go deep into a polar region where it is too dry for mold and relatively easy to set up a quarantine perimeter, (2) huddle near geothermal for energy, then (3) greenhouse/mushrooms for food?
Roko’s ice islands could also work. Or put a fission reactor in a colony in Antarctica?
The problem is that we’re running out of time. Industrial innovation to create “lifeboats” (that are broadly resistant to a large list of disasters) is slow when done by merely-humanly-intelligent people with very limited budgets compared to the speed of just training bigger models for longer.
I think a bioshelter is more likely to save your life fwiw. you’ll run into all kinds of other problems in the arctic
It don’t think it’s hard to build biosheletrs. If you buy one now, you’ll prob get it in 1 year.
If you are unlikely and need it earlier, there are DIY ways to build them before then (but you have to buy stuff in advance)
Fascinating. You caused me to google around and realize “bioshelter” was a sort of an academic trademark for specific people’s research proposals from the 1900s.
It doesn’t appear to be a closed system, like biosphere2 aspired to be from 1987 to 1991.
The hard part, from my perspective, isn’t “growing food with few inputs and little effort through clever designs” (which seems to be what the bioshelter thing is focued on?) but rather “thoroughly avoiding contamination by whatever bioweapons an evil AGI can cook up and try to spread into your safe zone”.
You might be interested in this:
https://www.fonixfuture.com/about
The point of a bioshelter is to filter pathogens out of the air.
I was interested in that! Those look amazing. I want to know the price now.