i don’t think determinism is incompatible with making decisions, just like nondeterminism doesn’t mean my decisions are “up to randomness”; from my perspective, i can either choose to do action A or action B, and from my perspective i actually get to steer the world towards what those action lead to.
this is a world that gets steered towards the values of agents who LARP
That’s the part that makes no sense to me. (Neither does compatibilism, to be honest, which to me has little to do with embedded agency.) Seems like the causality error you point is in a wrong direction: your LARPing and the outcomes have a common cause, but there is no “if we do this, the world ends up like that” in the “territory”. Anyway, seems like a tired old debate, probably not worth it.
i don’t think determinism is incompatible with making decisions, just like nondeterminism doesn’t mean my decisions are “up to randomness”; from my perspective, i can either choose to do action A or action B, and from my perspective i actually get to steer the world towards what those action lead to.
put another way, i’m a compatibilist; i implement embedded agency.
put another way, yes i LARP, and this is a world that gets steered towards the values of agents who LARP, so yay.
That’s the part that makes no sense to me. (Neither does compatibilism, to be honest, which to me has little to do with embedded agency.) Seems like the causality error you point is in a wrong direction: your LARPing and the outcomes have a common cause, but there is no “if we do this, the world ends up like that” in the “territory”. Anyway, seems like a tired old debate, probably not worth it.