This can also be seen on the time axis of a single individual’s existence when, young, they care little about sin and the afterlife, and, old, they do nothing but pray all day to make up for all the awful stuff they did
I’m pretty sure this isn’t how humans work. This post feels like you were aiming for a certain feel, or appearance, or tone, but not pursuing a goal. And so you ended up with a bunch of stuff thrown in not because it was useful or particularly well-supported, but because it fit. That’s bad. To do better I think you have to figure out what you want from this, and pursue that.
This is pretty much exactly how every single male Muslim I knew planned and acted out their lives, at least outwardly. I don’t know if it doesn’t work with devout Christians or Jews, but Muslims seem to condone “drkinging, smoking, whoring (or at least extramarital sex, though in their minds it might be near-equivalent), and evil rutheless business practice while young, and then doing nothing but praying and having God constantly in one’s mouth when Death’s on your doorstep”. That doesn’t mean they’ve become nicer, though: pricks tend to remain pricks, except now they’re terrified pricks wo nevertheless manage to act Holier Than Thou and tell everyone else how they should run their lives, from a position of superiority!
And no, I don’t have statistics for that, who’s going to dare make and publish that sort of inquiry? I simply thought it was common practice everywhere else.
This post feels like you were aiming for a certain feel, or appearance, or tone, but not pursuing a goal.
From what I’ve seen, this sort of thing is a bit of a cardinal sin in these places. You’re aware that properly formulating the question mean most of the work is done in finding the answer. I don’t know precisely how to ask the question, that’s why I seek help. If every time I have a doubt, I keep silent until I’ve found out exactly what it is I’m doubting, then asking about it becomes a little superfluous. I’m looking for information, not peer review.
Same for goals, how am I supposed to have a goal, other than information-gathering, when I don’t have the information?
The structure is very clear: 1. This song brought this paradox to my attention. 2. This is the standard behavior I have seen until now. 3. I have been unable to find (proof of the existence of) data on people who behave otherwise. Maybe there is, but I do not know where to begin looking for it. 4. I exhort anyone who know anything about this to share their knowledge here.
I was wrong, sorry. What you wanted (both goal-wise and what information you were asking for) was not clear to me, and I leapt to the wrong conclusion.
I don’t know the histories of that many old people, and most of them are family, but by about six to two I know of more who became less religious in old age. The effect of young adults being less religious is real, but if they “come back,” I think it’s more likely that they come back around the time they have kids, which I’ve seen a lot of.
What is the “paradox?” What needs to be explained, and why does it seem difficult to explain? Could you explain more clearly? Just wanting information about something is an okay goal, but there’s a lot of information out there, and if you just wanted all of it you’d use google. So presumably your goal is a bit more specific.
I’m pretty sure this isn’t how humans work. This post feels like you were aiming for a certain feel, or appearance, or tone, but not pursuing a goal. And so you ended up with a bunch of stuff thrown in not because it was useful or particularly well-supported, but because it fit. That’s bad. To do better I think you have to figure out what you want from this, and pursue that.
This is pretty much exactly how every single male Muslim I knew planned and acted out their lives, at least outwardly. I don’t know if it doesn’t work with devout Christians or Jews, but Muslims seem to condone “drkinging, smoking, whoring (or at least extramarital sex, though in their minds it might be near-equivalent), and evil rutheless business practice while young, and then doing nothing but praying and having God constantly in one’s mouth when Death’s on your doorstep”. That doesn’t mean they’ve become nicer, though: pricks tend to remain pricks, except now they’re terrified pricks wo nevertheless manage to act Holier Than Thou and tell everyone else how they should run their lives, from a position of superiority!
And no, I don’t have statistics for that, who’s going to dare make and publish that sort of inquiry? I simply thought it was common practice everywhere else.
From what I’ve seen, this sort of thing is a bit of a cardinal sin in these places. You’re aware that properly formulating the question mean most of the work is done in finding the answer. I don’t know precisely how to ask the question, that’s why I seek help. If every time I have a doubt, I keep silent until I’ve found out exactly what it is I’m doubting, then asking about it becomes a little superfluous. I’m looking for information, not peer review.
Same for goals, how am I supposed to have a goal, other than information-gathering, when I don’t have the information?
The structure is very clear: 1. This song brought this paradox to my attention. 2. This is the standard behavior I have seen until now. 3. I have been unable to find (proof of the existence of) data on people who behave otherwise. Maybe there is, but I do not know where to begin looking for it. 4. I exhort anyone who know anything about this to share their knowledge here.
I was wrong, sorry. What you wanted (both goal-wise and what information you were asking for) was not clear to me, and I leapt to the wrong conclusion.
I don’t know the histories of that many old people, and most of them are family, but by about six to two I know of more who became less religious in old age. The effect of young adults being less religious is real, but if they “come back,” I think it’s more likely that they come back around the time they have kids, which I’ve seen a lot of.
What is the “paradox?” What needs to be explained, and why does it seem difficult to explain? Could you explain more clearly? Just wanting information about something is an okay goal, but there’s a lot of information out there, and if you just wanted all of it you’d use google. So presumably your goal is a bit more specific.
While I can’t think of any specific examples, it doesn’t sound unusual to me for Catholics to do roughly that.