r/​changemyview may select for posters who have certain expectations of how a view changes: reasoned debate, well-researched arguments, careful analogies. these are orthogonal skills to raw persuasion.
Yeah, agreed. Oral arguments are also pretty structured, and probably also benefit greatly from the enormous amount of legal knowledge that LLMs enjoy. Their current persuasive abilities of LLMs feel pretty qualitatively different from whatever skills Charles Manson used to build up a cult.
r/​changemyview may select for posters who have certain expectations of how a view changes: reasoned debate, well-researched arguments, careful analogies. these are orthogonal skills to raw persuasion.
Yeah, agreed. Oral arguments are also pretty structured, and probably also benefit greatly from the enormous amount of legal knowledge that LLMs enjoy. Their current persuasive abilities of LLMs feel pretty qualitatively different from whatever skills Charles Manson used to build up a cult.