Example: Graham Hancock (and generally “conspiracy” theorists in the sense of people who have a hard to change belief in a big hidden truth that is just barely hinted at) is Slighted, Flint Dibble is Consensus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DL1_EMIw6w
Example: LessWrong tends Slighted I think
(I think the ontology here is probably complicated because “Slighted” is a predicate on (person, group of people they view as their “containing context” such as a country or religion or ideology or similar), so it can apply in crisscrossing ways. Slighted can even form large communities, which seems paradoxical, but there you go.)
IDK. Something like, Consensus is the default agreed-upon stance / the people who take that stance; Slighted is the people who don’t take that stance. (To be clear, I think I’m mostly saying something fairly obvious / not novel.)
For various reasons, the Slighted often end up viewing themselves as having been slighted by the Consensus. (E.g. they were actually slighted by the Consensus; or they were slighted by someone, and misattributed it to the Consensus; or they weren’t really slighted, but view themselves that way anyway.)
As an example, sometimes tech people (Slighted) are super dismissive of academia (Consensus) in general, describing them as cowards, liars, etc.
The ends of political horseshoes are very often Slighted. (Though not necessarily. Nick Fuentes is extremely Slighted; a far-right conservative guy who views himself as being old establishment may not be especially Slighted by default, though might later become so. Likewise far left.) Slightedness attracts and creates Slightedness. E.g. because you might actually be slighted some as punishment for association with other Slighted; and becauase you hang out with Slighted; etc. That’s also true for Consensus, though with different flavors.
A Slighted might view a Consensus as sanctimonious, cowardly, conformist, overconfident, boring, virtue signaling, envious, self-deceiving, power-thirsty (in the sense of wanting to be in control of arbitrary social consensus), wanting to cut down tall poppies, arbitrary / not truth seeking, getting sucked into a locked-in equilibrium, tribalistic.
A Consensus might view a Slighted as delusional, aggressive, contrarian, overconfident, wanting to feel special, power-thirsty (in the sense of wanting to avoid social or legal accountability), needing to be put in their place / needing to be socialized / needing moral correction / needed to have values transmitted to them, overly focused on the perceived Slight, having a big ego about their contrarian positions and not updating, getting sucked into spirals of networks of misinformation, reckless, uncaring, tribalistic, paranoid/conspiratorial.
As someone who probably fits under this label (and hopes it’s not too offtopic) I coincidentally had a post including a lot of what my personal beliefs are and how it is like to be under this feeling https://icely.substack.com/p/is-thinking-for-yourself-a-luxury—though I mildly dislike the term just because it feels close to sounding like a “slight” thing, perhaps other words that may give the feeling are like “justified-bitterness, society-disgust, consensus-disgust, disenfranchisement, consensus alienation”.
(Sorry, your post seems pretty interesting but I don’t have enough spare bandwidth; I’ll just note that those things you list here sound of course related to Slight but being Slighted is always a kind of choice you’re making, similar to being Consensus, and neither is that great—they both have advantages and disadvantages. They’re social and attitudinal attractors to some extent, but far from absolute.)
Feel free to respond/go into detail more if you happen to have the time/choose to. I guess I’ll say that is not how I personally experience it. The default state is to be in Consensus and not even be aware there is a choice, even if you were born in some feral culture and then say move to a very different culture, it’s very different because you think your own culture is normal and act that way. At my current point in time to “act Consensus” or to suppress Slighted-beliefs is like a constant forced strain on my moral compass. This is not a choice framing in my opinion, although as is with all definitions people can see very different things in certain words despite potential overlap and I would not want to discount that.
I guess one thing I’m saying is that one can have any given beliefs without taking the Slighted affiliations/attitudes too far. It’s not a mere choice, it’s a skill, potentially a big one (like lots of subskills, like “programming” is a skill), that one could learn over time.
What does this mean?
Example: Joe Rogan is Slighted
Example: Graham Hancock (and generally “conspiracy” theorists in the sense of people who have a hard to change belief in a big hidden truth that is just barely hinted at) is Slighted, Flint Dibble is Consensus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DL1_EMIw6w
Example: LessWrong tends Slighted I think
(I think the ontology here is probably complicated because “Slighted” is a predicate on (person, group of people they view as their “containing context” such as a country or religion or ideology or similar), so it can apply in crisscrossing ways. Slighted can even form large communities, which seems paradoxical, but there you go.)
IDK. Something like, Consensus is the default agreed-upon stance / the people who take that stance; Slighted is the people who don’t take that stance. (To be clear, I think I’m mostly saying something fairly obvious / not novel.)
For various reasons, the Slighted often end up viewing themselves as having been slighted by the Consensus. (E.g. they were actually slighted by the Consensus; or they were slighted by someone, and misattributed it to the Consensus; or they weren’t really slighted, but view themselves that way anyway.)
As an example, sometimes tech people (Slighted) are super dismissive of academia (Consensus) in general, describing them as cowards, liars, etc.
The ends of political horseshoes are very often Slighted. (Though not necessarily. Nick Fuentes is extremely Slighted; a far-right conservative guy who views himself as being old establishment may not be especially Slighted by default, though might later become so. Likewise far left.) Slightedness attracts and creates Slightedness. E.g. because you might actually be slighted some as punishment for association with other Slighted; and becauase you hang out with Slighted; etc. That’s also true for Consensus, though with different flavors.
A Slighted might view a Consensus as sanctimonious, cowardly, conformist, overconfident, boring, virtue signaling, envious, self-deceiving, power-thirsty (in the sense of wanting to be in control of arbitrary social consensus), wanting to cut down tall poppies, arbitrary / not truth seeking, getting sucked into a locked-in equilibrium, tribalistic.
A Consensus might view a Slighted as delusional, aggressive, contrarian, overconfident, wanting to feel special, power-thirsty (in the sense of wanting to avoid social or legal accountability), needing to be put in their place / needing to be socialized / needing moral correction / needed to have values transmitted to them, overly focused on the perceived Slight, having a big ego about their contrarian positions and not updating, getting sucked into spirals of networks of misinformation, reckless, uncaring, tribalistic, paranoid/conspiratorial.
As someone who probably fits under this label (and hopes it’s not too offtopic) I coincidentally had a post including a lot of what my personal beliefs are and how it is like to be under this feeling https://icely.substack.com/p/is-thinking-for-yourself-a-luxury—though I mildly dislike the term just because it feels close to sounding like a “slight” thing, perhaps other words that may give the feeling are like “justified-bitterness, society-disgust, consensus-disgust, disenfranchisement, consensus alienation”.
(Sorry, your post seems pretty interesting but I don’t have enough spare bandwidth; I’ll just note that those things you list here sound of course related to Slight but being Slighted is always a kind of choice you’re making, similar to being Consensus, and neither is that great—they both have advantages and disadvantages. They’re social and attitudinal attractors to some extent, but far from absolute.)
Feel free to respond/go into detail more if you happen to have the time/choose to. I guess I’ll say that is not how I personally experience it. The default state is to be in Consensus and not even be aware there is a choice, even if you were born in some feral culture and then say move to a very different culture, it’s very different because you think your own culture is normal and act that way. At my current point in time to “act Consensus” or to suppress Slighted-beliefs is like a constant forced strain on my moral compass. This is not a choice framing in my opinion, although as is with all definitions people can see very different things in certain words despite potential overlap and I would not want to discount that.
I guess one thing I’m saying is that one can have any given beliefs without taking the Slighted affiliations/attitudes too far. It’s not a mere choice, it’s a skill, potentially a big one (like lots of subskills, like “programming” is a skill), that one could learn over time.