Hyperstition in the accelerationist sense? I view hyperstitions (self-fulfilling prophecies) as a sort of extreme or degenerate form of control. It’s definitely real, but in the same sense that chaos magic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_magic#Belief_as_a_tool) is real, or like how “which rising star will be the next CEO” is a real question in a Moral Maze. I could be convinced otherwise but my sense is that this is a non-answer to the question of how real agents (with some partial coherence, and with reflective efforts to become more coherent) have their ultimate effects on the world determined.
Hmm. yeah, I meant self-fulfilling prophecy. I’ll have to ponder this response, I had been thinking of self-fulfilling prophecy as encompassing all control, including thermostats. Surprised you disagree.
Some version of that could make sense. But there’s something that seem saliently different about a person deciding to build a house and then building it, vs. say Mr. Trumpet going around telling Mr. Gold “oh yeah, Mr. Silver and Mr. Platinum are big investors on this project” and telling Mr. Silver and Mr. Platinum the conjugate thing until the project is pulled out of the ether as sufficiently invested in. In the latter case, from the investor’s perspective, the project is kind of a hyperstition. But actually they could decide to make choices about that, and Mr. Trumpet is in fact making choices about that.
Hyperstition in the accelerationist sense? I view hyperstitions (self-fulfilling prophecies) as a sort of extreme or degenerate form of control. It’s definitely real, but in the same sense that chaos magic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_magic#Belief_as_a_tool) is real, or like how “which rising star will be the next CEO” is a real question in a Moral Maze. I could be convinced otherwise but my sense is that this is a non-answer to the question of how real agents (with some partial coherence, and with reflective efforts to become more coherent) have their ultimate effects on the world determined.
Hmm. yeah, I meant self-fulfilling prophecy. I’ll have to ponder this response, I had been thinking of self-fulfilling prophecy as encompassing all control, including thermostats. Surprised you disagree.
Some version of that could make sense. But there’s something that seem saliently different about a person deciding to build a house and then building it, vs. say Mr. Trumpet going around telling Mr. Gold “oh yeah, Mr. Silver and Mr. Platinum are big investors on this project” and telling Mr. Silver and Mr. Platinum the conjugate thing until the project is pulled out of the ether as sufficiently invested in. In the latter case, from the investor’s perspective, the project is kind of a hyperstition. But actually they could decide to make choices about that, and Mr. Trumpet is in fact making choices about that.