Unless I’m mistaken, Leopold was never an employee at OpenPhil. Neither his wikipedia page nor his LinkedIn mention it, at least.
Perhaps employees of OpenPhil were similar to Leopold in this way, but it seems like you’re mostly speculating based on your guess of what OpenPhil was like at the time?
Presumably you had lots of interactions with them that inform your model of their group epistemology. I’d be interested in those datapoints, if any are sharable.
As it is, it seems pretty unreasonable to accuse OpenPhil of groupthink (to the point of calling their modesty “an utter sham given their actual skill levels” and that they had “no concept of what it would actually look like for them to be humble”), on the basis of your imagining of what it must have been like, given interaction you had with an EA who never worked there.
(A little social data: Leopold was a grantmaker at the FTX Foundation. He and Claire Zabel—of OpenPhil—had a joint call with Lightcone Infrastructure to discuss a shared grant to support our purchase of the Rose Garden Inn. We eventually turned down their offer.)
Inference from “Suppose Leopold is an employee at OpenPhil and that other employees at OpenPhil are exposed to his RL signal.”
Unless I’m mistaken, Leopold was never an employee at OpenPhil. Neither his wikipedia page nor his LinkedIn mention it, at least.
Perhaps employees of OpenPhil were similar to Leopold in this way, but it seems like you’re mostly speculating based on your guess of what OpenPhil was like at the time?
Presumably you had lots of interactions with them that inform your model of their group epistemology. I’d be interested in those datapoints, if any are sharable.
As it is, it seems pretty unreasonable to accuse OpenPhil of groupthink (to the point of calling their modesty “an utter sham given their actual skill levels” and that they had “no concept of what it would actually look like for them to be humble”), on the basis of your imagining of what it must have been like, given interaction you had with an EA who never worked there.
(A little social data: Leopold was a grantmaker at the FTX Foundation. He and Claire Zabel—of OpenPhil—had a joint call with Lightcone Infrastructure to discuss a shared grant to support our purchase of the Rose Garden Inn. We eventually turned down their offer.)