I’ve noticed a few places over the past year where you seemed to be missing the point of a conversation, in a way that’s distracting/offtopic. Each individual time didn’t quite feel a big denough deal to warrant stepping in as a moderator but I think it’s adding up to a point where I think something needs to change.
For the immediate future I’m just letting auto-rate-limits handle the situation, but I may escalate to a longer term rate limit if it continues to be a problem.
Some concrete asks:
On the object level of this conversation, “can you taboo word X” is a pretty standard LessWrong request you should be able to respond to (or, if you don’t feel like it, just say “I don’t feel like getting into it”. Having an elaborate meta conversation about not doing it feels like the least useful use of everyone’s time).
Try to shift back to the object level conversation sooner. In this case you’re still debating whether Taboo is a reasonable thing to do when Matt’s already restated his original question. i.e. what do you (M. Y. Zuo) mean by “I would say that regardless of how weird the dynamics may appear from the outside, if the organization persists generation after generation, and even grows in influence, then it cannot be that weird in actuality.”, without using the word “weird.”
I’d ask you either actually respond to that, or drop the topic. I’m locking the rest of the thread. (People who want to continue discussing this at the meta level can do so over on the Open Thread)
A slightly less concrete ask is “please invest a bit more in understanding where people are coming from, and trying to generally learn the norms on the forum.”
Hey M.Y Zuo, I’m commenting with my mod hat on.
I’ve noticed a few places over the past year where you seemed to be missing the point of a conversation, in a way that’s distracting/offtopic. Each individual time didn’t quite feel a big denough deal to warrant stepping in as a moderator but I think it’s adding up to a point where I think something needs to change.
For the immediate future I’m just letting auto-rate-limits handle the situation, but I may escalate to a longer term rate limit if it continues to be a problem.
Some concrete asks:
On the object level of this conversation, “can you taboo word X” is a pretty standard LessWrong request you should be able to respond to (or, if you don’t feel like it, just say “I don’t feel like getting into it”. Having an elaborate meta conversation about not doing it feels like the least useful use of everyone’s time).
Try to shift back to the object level conversation sooner. In this case you’re still debating whether Taboo is a reasonable thing to do when Matt’s already restated his original question. i.e. what do you (M. Y. Zuo) mean by “I would say that regardless of how weird the dynamics may appear from the outside, if the organization persists generation after generation, and even grows in influence, then it cannot be that weird in actuality.”, without using the word “weird.”
I’d ask you either actually respond to that, or drop the topic. I’m locking the rest of the thread. (People who want to continue discussing this at the meta level can do so over on the Open Thread)
A slightly less concrete ask is “please invest a bit more in understanding where people are coming from, and trying to generally learn the norms on the forum.”