Under your argument, I have not yet grown up.[1] I fail to appreciate arbitrary rules.[2]
Being an adult means you get to decide your own rules. How much do you want a clean and tidy kitchen?
I don’t want a clean kitchen. Why are there other people deciding that I would want a clean kitchen? The asymmetry between the collective perception and my perceived benefit is real.
Wanting laws to enforce such things is like wanting your parents to still wipe your nose for you.
If my parents can wipe my nose for me my entire life, then yes. It turns out there is a high probability that my parents will be unable to wipe my nose for the rest of my life, and therefore I (minimally) learn to wipe mine.[3]
FYI: I’m 24 years old at the time of writing this, although growing up has little to do with age, as one (including me) could argue that I have not yet grown up.
To me, a legitimate rule must have a justifiable reason. Whether the collective reason is justifiable under my own views or not depends a lot on my beliefs and values. If I perceive a rule as unjustifiable under my beliefs and values, then I push back, i.e., I voice an opinion to discontinue the rule. This whole post is also one instance of such opinion.
FYI: My only reason to “try to be independent from parents” is to pursue the freedom. There are a lot of things my parents wouldn’t allow me if they I were still in their control. In fact, nowadays my parents allow me to do a lot of things, and therefore I need not try to be independent anymore. So if they’re willing to wipe my nose for the rest of my life while allowing me to study whatever I want and work in whatever I’m interested in, then sure, so be it.
I don’t want a clean kitchen. Why are there other people deciding that I would want a clean kitchen?
No-one is. I am not. I do want my own kitchen to be clean, my whole house to be in good order. So I do the work to get what I want, because there is no-one else, I’m it.
It is up to you to decide what you want. Referring to your own examples, which of these do you want to do?
Chatter excitedly at the top of your voice on public transport. Punch anyone who asks you to keep it down.
In a self-clear cafeteria, just leave everything on the table.
Be rude.
Diss everyone.
Treat your promises like pie-crust, made to be broken.
Is it ok if everyone else does the same?
Or maybe you don’t even want to decide what you want, and what you will pay to get it?
But you have said you want laws to enforce customs. So now, who are you to decide such things for others?
There are a lot of things my parents wouldn’t allow me if they I were still in their control. In fact, nowadays my parents allow me
That’s a strange juxtaposition: “if … I were still in their control” and “nowadays my parents allow me”. Which is it? You are independent of them, or they are able to allow (and therefore disallow) you to do this or that?
Under your argument, I have not yet grown up.[1] I fail to appreciate arbitrary rules.[2]
I don’t want a clean kitchen. Why are there other people deciding that I would want a clean kitchen? The asymmetry between the collective perception and my perceived benefit is real.
If my parents can wipe my nose for me my entire life, then yes. It turns out there is a high probability that my parents will be unable to wipe my nose for the rest of my life, and therefore I (minimally) learn to wipe mine.[3]
FYI: I’m 24 years old at the time of writing this, although growing up has little to do with age, as one (including me) could argue that I have not yet grown up.
To me, a legitimate rule must have a justifiable reason. Whether the collective reason is justifiable under my own views or not depends a lot on my beliefs and values. If I perceive a rule as unjustifiable under my beliefs and values, then I push back, i.e., I voice an opinion to discontinue the rule. This whole post is also one instance of such opinion.
FYI: My only reason to “try to be independent from parents” is to pursue the freedom. There are a lot of things my parents wouldn’t allow me if they I were still in their control. In fact, nowadays my parents allow me to do a lot of things, and therefore I need not try to be independent anymore. So if they’re willing to wipe my nose for the rest of my life while allowing me to study whatever I want and work in whatever I’m interested in, then sure, so be it.
No-one is. I am not. I do want my own kitchen to be clean, my whole house to be in good order. So I do the work to get what I want, because there is no-one else, I’m it.
It is up to you to decide what you want. Referring to your own examples, which of these do you want to do?
Chatter excitedly at the top of your voice on public transport. Punch anyone who asks you to keep it down.
In a self-clear cafeteria, just leave everything on the table.
Be rude.
Diss everyone.
Treat your promises like pie-crust, made to be broken.
Is it ok if everyone else does the same?
Or maybe you don’t even want to decide what you want, and what you will pay to get it?
But you have said you want laws to enforce customs. So now, who are you to decide such things for others?
That’s a strange juxtaposition: “if … I were still in their control” and “nowadays my parents allow me”. Which is it? You are independent of them, or they are able to allow (and therefore disallow) you to do this or that?