Maybe this is inappropriate, but is there a path to convincing you to stay? I disagree with some of the details of what you’re saying, but much seems directionally correct and important. It would be a shame if those with your values were to vacate the commons.
As David Duvenaud said, a surprisingly high number of researchers and engineers at leading capabilities labs believe in transformative AI, but have underdeveloped or overtly incoherent models of the future. I suppose one model of how said people could be this way is that they only value money and power, or are only interested in securing their slice of the lightcone. I personally think most are persuadable (though probably not persuadable in time). Maybe what is needed in the community is more courage, as per Nate Soares?
Maybe this is because I avoid the Bay Area, but the median rationalist and effective altruist I know (and particularly those who are my friends) demonstrably care about more things than maximizing wealth and living forever. In fact, I honestly have a hard time persuading those around me that they should care about living forever.
I wouldn’t recommend OP treat this as a place to socially “live” if they’ve found it annoying. Coming back here to argue points occasionally seems valuable, though, precisely because of the criticisms they’ve listed.
Maybe this is inappropriate, but is there a path to convincing you to stay? I disagree with some of the details of what you’re saying, but much seems directionally correct and important. It would be a shame if those with your values were to vacate the commons.
As David Duvenaud said, a surprisingly high number of researchers and engineers at leading capabilities labs believe in transformative AI, but have underdeveloped or overtly incoherent models of the future. I suppose one model of how said people could be this way is that they only value money and power, or are only interested in securing their slice of the lightcone. I personally think most are persuadable (though probably not persuadable in time). Maybe what is needed in the community is more courage, as per Nate Soares?
Maybe this is because I avoid the Bay Area, but the median rationalist and effective altruist I know (and particularly those who are my friends) demonstrably care about more things than maximizing wealth and living forever. In fact, I honestly have a hard time persuading those around me that they should care about living forever.
I wouldn’t recommend OP treat this as a place to socially “live” if they’ve found it annoying. Coming back here to argue points occasionally seems valuable, though, precisely because of the criticisms they’ve listed.