I’m imagining the situation from the perspective of a graduate student in physics interested in Wolfram’s ideas. In the current system, such a student could not justify to their advisor why they’d work on Wolfram’s project, you can’t work on an unorganized cluster of ideas published in a pop-science book without sacrificing some of your capital as a graduate student. Potential departments where you’d like to post-doc will look at you weirdly, no one will cite your papers because no one is working on this, etc. By doing things as he hid, Wolfram is asking everyone who might work on his theory to pay a large social and professional cost. I agree that the current physics publishing equilibrium might not be the optimal one, but the establishment has two hundred years of glorious, shining history to back it up, basically everyone who ever found something important about math or the universe wrote it in a paper, that’s a hell of a thing to throw away on your own. Going with the tradition is a lot more productive than screaming at the sky trying to change the equilibrium single-handedly.
I’m much more confident that there are in fact ‘enough graduate students’ working on Wolfram’s physics project after watching some videos that someone else kindly shared elsewhere in the comments on this post.
The ‘math lead’ of the project – Jonathan Gorard – has mentioned work being done by both former and current students. This video includes some of that (and is otherwise really interesting):
(Some of his current students are working on some really cool experimental tests of the Wolfram theory/model!)
My ‘model’ of the ‘current system’s resistance’ is some mix of: (a) Wolfram being a (HUGE) ‘asshole’ (or maybe ‘literally disordered’ in personality or temperament); (b) basically all of the old guard ‘sticking to’ continuous mathematics and dismissing any ‘fundamentally discrete’ alternatives out of hand.
Wolfram’s emphasis on ‘computation’ over ‘mathematics’ is probably also contributing to this somewhat, but, in the video above, it seems like younger physicists/academics might be much more receptive to this than ‘the oldguard’. Apparently some areas/branches of physics are already pretty, or heavily, ‘computational’. Fundamental (particle) physics seems like the big holdout in that sense.
I’m imagining the situation from the perspective of a graduate student in physics interested in Wolfram’s ideas. In the current system, such a student could not justify to their advisor why they’d work on Wolfram’s project, you can’t work on an unorganized cluster of ideas published in a pop-science book without sacrificing some of your capital as a graduate student. Potential departments where you’d like to post-doc will look at you weirdly, no one will cite your papers because no one is working on this, etc. By doing things as he hid, Wolfram is asking everyone who might work on his theory to pay a large social and professional cost. I agree that the current physics publishing equilibrium might not be the optimal one, but the establishment has two hundred years of glorious, shining history to back it up, basically everyone who ever found something important about math or the universe wrote it in a paper, that’s a hell of a thing to throw away on your own. Going with the tradition is a lot more productive than screaming at the sky trying to change the equilibrium single-handedly.
I’m much more confident that there are in fact ‘enough graduate students’ working on Wolfram’s physics project after watching some videos that someone else kindly shared elsewhere in the comments on this post.
The ‘math lead’ of the project – Jonathan Gorard – has mentioned work being done by both former and current students. This video includes some of that (and is otherwise really interesting):
Eigenbros ep 138 - Wolfram Physics Project Pt. 2 (w/ Jonathan Gorard) - YouTube
(Some of his current students are working on some really cool experimental tests of the Wolfram theory/model!)
My ‘model’ of the ‘current system’s resistance’ is some mix of: (a) Wolfram being a (HUGE) ‘asshole’ (or maybe ‘literally disordered’ in personality or temperament); (b) basically all of the old guard ‘sticking to’ continuous mathematics and dismissing any ‘fundamentally discrete’ alternatives out of hand.
Wolfram’s emphasis on ‘computation’ over ‘mathematics’ is probably also contributing to this somewhat, but, in the video above, it seems like younger physicists/academics might be much more receptive to this than ‘the oldguard’. Apparently some areas/branches of physics are already pretty, or heavily, ‘computational’. Fundamental (particle) physics seems like the big holdout in that sense.
I really have a lot of sympathy tho for anyone trying to “change the equilibrium single-handedly”, even if it’s not likely to succeed.
I’m not sure I’d every expect the equilibrium to change otherwise!
Are there specific obstacles to ‘moving to a new equilibrium’ that you’d also expect to no longer apply at any specific point in the future?
My intuition is that it’s most likely to be disrupted or changed because of a significant ‘defection’ and not because of some future coordination.