Taboo “qualia” and “consciousness”. You are speaking with great confidence in a discussion involving philosophical terms, and this is always a mistake if you have not already unambiguously defined these terms. And unambiguous definitions of philosophical terms are always controversial, and always in my experience lead to argument. Rationalist taboo, please.
rationality should then also be taboo. Unless you can unambiguously define [it].
what do we mean by rationality does a pretty good job of that. Though it should be noted that the notion of tabooing a term is for a particular situation where there is confusion / disagreement involving the term in question, and so “AI” at least is not worth tabooing in response to the parent comment.
I can see a lot of possible benefits to creating a computer program capable of producing good solutions to any arbitrarily selected real-world problem, and I agree that the secondary meaning of “morally-correct” implicit in the word “good” makes this task even more difficult than it already appears to be.
It is fairly obvious from the many examples of high-g people spiraling off into ridiculous positions that it takes much more than smarts to be able to reliably and accurately figure out what is going on and make plans, and it would be useful (and entertaining, if I’m honest) to know what kind of errors I am likely to make and what methods I may be neglecting when it comes to figuring out what is going on and making plans.
That said, I should have made it clear how narrow the scope of my request was: I have no problem with colloquial use of the term “consciousness” under ordinary circumstances. I requested the restriction in this case specifically because this discussion hinges on details of the definition which are frequently perceived as obvious in contradictory ways by different participants. Tabooing the term avoids that tar pit.
Taboo “qualia” and “consciousness”. You are speaking with great confidence in a discussion involving philosophical terms, and this is always a mistake if you have not already unambiguously defined these terms. And unambiguous definitions of philosophical terms are always controversial, and always in my experience lead to argument. Rationalist taboo, please.
AI and rationality should then also be taboo. Unless you can unambiguously define them.
what do we mean by rationality does a pretty good job of that. Though it should be noted that the notion of tabooing a term is for a particular situation where there is confusion / disagreement involving the term in question, and so “AI” at least is not worth tabooing in response to the parent comment.
With respect to this forum:
I can see a lot of possible benefits to creating a computer program capable of producing good solutions to any arbitrarily selected real-world problem, and I agree that the secondary meaning of “morally-correct” implicit in the word “good” makes this task even more difficult than it already appears to be.
It is fairly obvious from the many examples of high-g people spiraling off into ridiculous positions that it takes much more than smarts to be able to reliably and accurately figure out what is going on and make plans, and it would be useful (and entertaining, if I’m honest) to know what kind of errors I am likely to make and what methods I may be neglecting when it comes to figuring out what is going on and making plans.
That said, I should have made it clear how narrow the scope of my request was: I have no problem with colloquial use of the term “consciousness” under ordinary circumstances. I requested the restriction in this case specifically because this discussion hinges on details of the definition which are frequently perceived as obvious in contradictory ways by different participants. Tabooing the term avoids that tar pit.