It seems to me that Habryka would not have valued the information highly enough to agree to the confidentiality terms as a condition of receiving it, based on his top level comment.
(tbh, “Don’t use this information against the interests of one of your adversaries” is something I’ve taken as a condition of information in the past, but have generally negotiated pretty carefully ahead of time and have only accepted as a retroactive condition twice, and both times only for good friends that I had an ongoing high-trust relationship with (and even then there were exceptions in the policy that I decided on). Generally the furthest I’m willing to go is “don’t use this information against my own interests”)
A question I have for OP is: “in the spirit of planecrash-style lawfulness, did you offer to compensate him for agreeing to your terms after the fact? That intuitively feels like the next step after receiving a response of ‘no deal’”
A pair of questions I have for habryka is “approximately what price would you have quoted for the retrocommitment?” and “are you generally willing to retrocommit in cases where the proposed terms are less onerous or you are offered compensation?”
My understanding is that Habryka spent hours talking to the third party as a result of receiving the information.
I mistakenly assumed a pretty friendly/high-trust relationship in this context due to previous interactions with the Lightcone team and due to the nature of the project we (me and Habryka) were both helping with.
I think the interests of everyone involved (me, Habryka, and the third party) are all very aligned, but Habryka disagrees with my assessment (a part of the reason of sharing the information was to make him talk to the third party and figure out that they’re a lot more aligned than Habryka assumed).
I did not make the offer, because from the context of the DMs had assumed that Habryka’s problem with the idea was keeping secrets at all, for deontology-related reasons and not because of the personal price of how complicated that is. I would’ve been happy to pay a reasonable price.
(Elsewhere, Habryka said the price would’ve been “If you recognize that as a cost and owe me a really small favor or something, I can keep it private, but please don’t take this as a given”.)
It seems to me that Habryka would not have valued the information highly enough to agree to the confidentiality terms as a condition of receiving it, based on his top level comment.
(tbh, “Don’t use this information against the interests of one of your adversaries” is something I’ve taken as a condition of information in the past, but have generally negotiated pretty carefully ahead of time and have only accepted as a retroactive condition twice, and both times only for good friends that I had an ongoing high-trust relationship with (and even then there were exceptions in the policy that I decided on). Generally the furthest I’m willing to go is “don’t use this information against my own interests”)
A question I have for OP is: “in the spirit of planecrash-style lawfulness, did you offer to compensate him for agreeing to your terms after the fact? That intuitively feels like the next step after receiving a response of ‘no deal’”
A pair of questions I have for habryka is “approximately what price would you have quoted for the retrocommitment?” and “are you generally willing to retrocommit in cases where the proposed terms are less onerous or you are offered compensation?”
My understanding is that Habryka spent hours talking to the third party as a result of receiving the information.
I mistakenly assumed a pretty friendly/high-trust relationship in this context due to previous interactions with the Lightcone team and due to the nature of the project we (me and Habryka) were both helping with.
I think the interests of everyone involved (me, Habryka, and the third party) are all very aligned, but Habryka disagrees with my assessment (a part of the reason of sharing the information was to make him talk to the third party and figure out that they’re a lot more aligned than Habryka assumed).
I did not make the offer, because from the context of the DMs had assumed that Habryka’s problem with the idea was keeping secrets at all, for deontology-related reasons and not because of the personal price of how complicated that is. I would’ve been happy to pay a reasonable price.
(Elsewhere, Habryka said the price would’ve been “If you recognize that as a cost and owe me a really small favor or something, I can keep it private, but please don’t take this as a given”.)