I would likely do this from my own motivation (i.e. not necessarily need money) if I were given at least one of:
a) guaranteed protection from the badgunk comments by e.g. three moderators willing to be dependably high-effort down in the comments
b) given the power to hide badgunk comments pending their author rewriting them to eliminate the badgunk
c) given the power to leave inline commentary on people’s badgunk comments
The only thing holding me back from doing something much more like what Said proposes is “LW comment sections regularly abuse and exhaust me.” Literally that’s the only barrier, and it’s a substantial one. If LW comment sections did not regularly abuse and exhaust me, such that every post feels like I need to set aside fifty hours of life and spoons just in case, then I could and would be much more prolific.
(To be clear: some people whose pushback on this post was emphatically not abuse or exhausting include supposedlyfun, Said, Elizabeth, johnswentsworth, and agrippa.)
a) guaranteed protection from the badgunk comments by e.g. three moderators willing to be dependably high-effort down in the comments
Would you accept this substitute:
“A site/community culture where other commenters will reliably ‘call out’ (and downvote) undesirable comments, and will not be punished for doing so (and attempts to punish them for such ‘vigilante-style’ a.k.a. ‘grassroots’ ‘comment policing’ will themselves be punished—by other commenters, recursively, with support from moderators if required).”
Yes, absolutely. Thanks for noting it. That substitute is much more what the OP is pushing for.
EDIT: With the further claim that, once such activity is reliable and credible, its rate will also decrease. That standards, clearly held and reliably enforced, tend to beget fewer violations in the first place, and that, in other words, I don’t think this would be a permanent uptick in policing.
I would likely do this from my own motivation (i.e. not necessarily need money) if I were given at least one of:
a) guaranteed protection from the badgunk comments by e.g. three moderators willing to be dependably high-effort down in the comments
b) given the power to hide badgunk comments pending their author rewriting them to eliminate the badgunk
c) given the power to leave inline commentary on people’s badgunk comments
The only thing holding me back from doing something much more like what Said proposes is “LW comment sections regularly abuse and exhaust me.” Literally that’s the only barrier, and it’s a substantial one. If LW comment sections did not regularly abuse and exhaust me, such that every post feels like I need to set aside fifty hours of life and spoons just in case, then I could and would be much more prolific.
(To be clear: some people whose pushback on this post was emphatically not abuse or exhausting include supposedlyfun, Said, Elizabeth, johnswentsworth, and agrippa.)
Would you accept this substitute:
“A site/community culture where other commenters will reliably ‘call out’ (and downvote) undesirable comments, and will not be punished for doing so (and attempts to punish them for such ‘vigilante-style’ a.k.a. ‘grassroots’ ‘comment policing’ will themselves be punished—by other commenters, recursively, with support from moderators if required).”
Yes, absolutely. Thanks for noting it. That substitute is much more what the OP is pushing for.
EDIT: With the further claim that, once such activity is reliable and credible, its rate will also decrease. That standards, clearly held and reliably enforced, tend to beget fewer violations in the first place, and that, in other words, I don’t think this would be a permanent uptick in policing.