I found a ugly mechanic manifested in here me where I applied all kinds of inversions of normal modes of writing. Now that I got the bad out of my system and there has been a cool off period, time to go try to make repair of my damages that I have caused.
The post is talking about organising against mindkilly activity and a thing that did stick out for me was that it was a bit accusatory. The analysis of that accusatoriness didn’t exactly go well and I am going to try to restep that process where it seemed to first go wrong.
My “spew out inkia nd words fast” responce was triggered as I thought a process similar to somebody trying to organise a witchtrial foremost needs to quickly be put down. In Power Buys You Distance From The Crime I was worried about a situation where somebody wants urgent action based on simplistic models and that urgency has a tendency to keep those models simple and suggest simple remedies. I fear that peopes sentiments of “post convinced me of something and I don’t what” is similar to a sentiment “yeah, I want to burn whitches. I don’t know what they are but I want to burn them”. It possible to get people behind a plan of “burnt witch leads to good harvest next year” but the urgency to take some action is not substitute for the plan to actually work.
The discussion by now includes some more dialogue. I was supposed to be out of it but it starts to become relevant by just the repetition of the topic. The year old recommendation was that “How this happened?” is way more justifiable question than “Whos life we should make diffcult based on this?”. And I am reading a sentiment of “These people shall not make our life difficult by their accusations” and this post to be more about rallying people to defend a form of activity. In the airplane crash analog a pilot might be opionated that just because there was a crash they don’t want to make their piloting procedures any more complex and might be fanning flames for scutinty of air traffic control so that focus keeps away from pilot procedures.
Letting airplanes fly with unexplained casualties woud be a traversty so it is warranted to launch detailed investigations when people are mysteriously lost. We also don’t just ban all air traffic when there is a casualty. To implement a fix before the investigation produces a causal story of what happened is not likely to help.
Now to the local twist.
In the original comment I thought that I presented clear enough of a situaution where there is an A and B and the B gets calle A and that is disrespectful. This seems to not have been the case. A further example of this could be calling cricket croquette. Cricket is a perfectly respectable sport. Croquette is a perfectly respectable sport. Mixing the two can be disrespectful to them both or shows a degree of ignorance.
However it seems that what it was taken for whas that there is a “bad” or “contaminated” A and a neutral B and calling B an A is disrespectful because of A being an insulting thing. Referring to excess material as “trash” or “nuclear waste”. Calling loaners thiefs.
Elsewhere there was an issue whether mentioning psychopathy and autism in the same breath or being somehow mutually involved whether that is okay. I could also take the example of mixing up blindness and deafness when a person says they are blind that somebody starts to raise their voice. These kinds of situation could be read to exhibit both the “cricket” and “nuclear waste” kind of insult depending on attitudes of the various conditions.
I was not using autistic as a synonym for stupid, and literally never have. I do not think that autistic is a synonym for stupid.
I (extremely) agree with you that doing so is and would be rude, bad, unwelcoming, and a violation of basic hospitality norms.
Seems to read that “stupid” is contaminated and can’t be used in a neutral sense.
This is not super relevant if the concept of “stupid” or anything like it is ever invoked. I would guess this could be categorised as moot until that.
I do think that the mentions of “autistic” as positive standard reveals or brings it so that there is no mere flavour differences dealt with. If player C is good at cricket and player D is good at croquet and therefore I conclude that player C is a better sportsman that does place cricket and croquet on an uneven evaluation ground. Cricket is harder or excelling in it is more valuable than the other sport. And maybe somebody could argue that this evaluation can be made in a way that is not unduly discriminatory like there is no magical guarantee that all sports are equally virtous. But it could also be argued that there is no need to compare apples to oranges.
So if “autistic” is used in the bar as an intensifier then to that extent the “stupid” or something problematic for same kinds of reasons does enter the picture.
I found a ugly mechanic manifested in here me where I applied all kinds of inversions of normal modes of writing. Now that I got the bad out of my system and there has been a cool off period, time to go try to make repair of my damages that I have caused.
The post is talking about organising against mindkilly activity and a thing that did stick out for me was that it was a bit accusatory. The analysis of that accusatoriness didn’t exactly go well and I am going to try to restep that process where it seemed to first go wrong.
My “spew out inkia nd words fast” responce was triggered as I thought a process similar to somebody trying to organise a witchtrial foremost needs to quickly be put down. In Power Buys You Distance From The Crime I was worried about a situation where somebody wants urgent action based on simplistic models and that urgency has a tendency to keep those models simple and suggest simple remedies. I fear that peopes sentiments of “post convinced me of something and I don’t what” is similar to a sentiment “yeah, I want to burn whitches. I don’t know what they are but I want to burn them”. It possible to get people behind a plan of “burnt witch leads to good harvest next year” but the urgency to take some action is not substitute for the plan to actually work.
The discussion by now includes some more dialogue. I was supposed to be out of it but it starts to become relevant by just the repetition of the topic. The year old recommendation was that “How this happened?” is way more justifiable question than “Whos life we should make diffcult based on this?”. And I am reading a sentiment of “These people shall not make our life difficult by their accusations” and this post to be more about rallying people to defend a form of activity. In the airplane crash analog a pilot might be opionated that just because there was a crash they don’t want to make their piloting procedures any more complex and might be fanning flames for scutinty of air traffic control so that focus keeps away from pilot procedures.
Letting airplanes fly with unexplained casualties woud be a traversty so it is warranted to launch detailed investigations when people are mysteriously lost. We also don’t just ban all air traffic when there is a casualty. To implement a fix before the investigation produces a causal story of what happened is not likely to help.
Now to the local twist.
In the original comment I thought that I presented clear enough of a situaution where there is an A and B and the B gets calle A and that is disrespectful. This seems to not have been the case. A further example of this could be calling cricket croquette. Cricket is a perfectly respectable sport. Croquette is a perfectly respectable sport. Mixing the two can be disrespectful to them both or shows a degree of ignorance.
However it seems that what it was taken for whas that there is a “bad” or “contaminated” A and a neutral B and calling B an A is disrespectful because of A being an insulting thing. Referring to excess material as “trash” or “nuclear waste”. Calling loaners thiefs.
Elsewhere there was an issue whether mentioning psychopathy and autism in the same breath or being somehow mutually involved whether that is okay. I could also take the example of mixing up blindness and deafness when a person says they are blind that somebody starts to raise their voice. These kinds of situation could be read to exhibit both the “cricket” and “nuclear waste” kind of insult depending on attitudes of the various conditions.
Seems to read that “stupid” is contaminated and can’t be used in a neutral sense.
This is not super relevant if the concept of “stupid” or anything like it is ever invoked. I would guess this could be categorised as moot until that.
I do think that the mentions of “autistic” as positive standard reveals or brings it so that there is no mere flavour differences dealt with. If player C is good at cricket and player D is good at croquet and therefore I conclude that player C is a better sportsman that does place cricket and croquet on an uneven evaluation ground. Cricket is harder or excelling in it is more valuable than the other sport. And maybe somebody could argue that this evaluation can be made in a way that is not unduly discriminatory like there is no magical guarantee that all sports are equally virtous. But it could also be argued that there is no need to compare apples to oranges.
So if “autistic” is used in the bar as an intensifier then to that extent the “stupid” or something problematic for same kinds of reasons does enter the picture.