Christian: Please show how L. Ron Hubbard and Korzybski have different views about what causes the ills in society
No, I asked for whether there disagreement between the two. Hubbard said basically that he mixed General Semantics with Cybernetics. Then he added a few of his own ideas.
I’m not aware that he argued that either General Semantics or Cybernetics is wrong. Rather that they are incomplete.
Believing there are aliens that live among us is not just a word, it makes material predictions at the fabric of what’s wrong and how to fix it.
Scientology has certain exercises that supposedly fix the issue. Whether or not those exercises are helpful has little to do with the question of whether it’s aliens.
I think you fail at steelmanning Ron Hubbard and simply go for cheap shots. That’s okay when you simply want to find reasons to not go to scientology but it’s not helpful for understanding the underlying ideas.
No, I asked for whether there disagreement between the two. Hubbard said basically that he mixed General Semantics with Cybernetics. Then he added a few of his own ideas. I’m not aware that he argued that either General Semantics or Cybernetics is wrong. Rather that they are incomplete.
Scientology has certain exercises that supposedly fix the issue. Whether or not those exercises are helpful has little to do with the question of whether it’s aliens.
Lukeprog reported that he got a lot of value from those exercises: http://lesswrong.com/lw/58m/build_small_skills_in_the_right_order/
I think you fail at steelmanning Ron Hubbard and simply go for cheap shots. That’s okay when you simply want to find reasons to not go to scientology but it’s not helpful for understanding the underlying ideas.