Disclosure: I haven’t read the full string of comments
I’m pretty sure you’re a bit off on the Islamic side of things though.
a valid source of laws and doesn’t think that God has given human kings the right to make laws the way Christianity thinks with the devine right of kings.
Kings’ claim to rule seems to be fairly similar to that of an Islamic caliph, who are supposed to be prophets selected by God himself, and are able to create laws/etc. as he would want basically.
Kings’ claim to rule seems to be fairly similar to that of an Islamic caliph, who are supposed to be prophets selected by God himself, and are able to create laws/etc. as he would want basically.
No. The core idea of Islam is that a caliph is not a person who can create laws and if he tries to do so his followers have an obligation to fight him over it. God gave humanity the sharia and the caliph can’t simply deviate from it because he thinks that it would be better if man and woman have the same right as far as inheritance goes.
The caliph can make rulings that interpret the koran (fatwa’s) but he can’t make laws.
Worldly issues such as alimony rules and inheritance rules are hardlocked in the sharia. In our cities with sizable Muslim populations you have Muslims running parallel legal system. In Berlin we have problems that arise from German law considering alimony to be a regular payment while sharia law considers it to be made in a large one time payment.
That conflict of alimony payments is something that leftish Muslims in Berlin worry about because their religion dictates them to live differently than German law.
Christianity doesn’t work that way. If you take the Western idea of what religion happens to be, that not the cluster filled by Islam. Islam adds the sharia with doesn’t have an equivalent. While not every Muslim believes in cutting of hands, the civil rules for alimony and inheritance are a core part of Islam as practiced by liberal Western Muslims.
Apart from the issue of lawmaking the caliph is the religious leader of his nation while a king isn’t.
Disclosure: I haven’t read the full string of comments
I’m pretty sure you’re a bit off on the Islamic side of things though.
Kings’ claim to rule seems to be fairly similar to that of an Islamic caliph, who are supposed to be prophets selected by God himself, and are able to create laws/etc. as he would want basically.
No. The core idea of Islam is that a caliph is not a person who can create laws and if he tries to do so his followers have an obligation to fight him over it. God gave humanity the sharia and the caliph can’t simply deviate from it because he thinks that it would be better if man and woman have the same right as far as inheritance goes.
The caliph can make rulings that interpret the koran (fatwa’s) but he can’t make laws.
Worldly issues such as alimony rules and inheritance rules are hardlocked in the sharia. In our cities with sizable Muslim populations you have Muslims running parallel legal system. In Berlin we have problems that arise from German law considering alimony to be a regular payment while sharia law considers it to be made in a large one time payment.
That conflict of alimony payments is something that leftish Muslims in Berlin worry about because their religion dictates them to live differently than German law.
Christianity doesn’t work that way. If you take the Western idea of what religion happens to be, that not the cluster filled by Islam. Islam adds the sharia with doesn’t have an equivalent. While not every Muslim believes in cutting of hands, the civil rules for alimony and inheritance are a core part of Islam as practiced by liberal Western Muslims.
Apart from the issue of lawmaking the caliph is the religious leader of his nation while a king isn’t.