I think it would be bad to suppress arguments! But I don’t see any arguments being suppressed here. Indeed, I see Zack as trying to create a standard where (for some reason) arguments about AI labs being reckless must be made directly to the people who are working at those labs, and other arguments should not be made, which seems weird to me. The OP seems to me like it’s making fine arguments.
I don’t think it was ever a requirement for participation on LessWrong to only ever engage in arguments that could change the minds of the specific people who you would like to do something else, as opposed to arguments that are generally compelling and might affect those people in indirect ways. It’s nice when it works out, but it really doesn’t seem like a tenet of LessWrong.
Ah, I had (incorrectly) interpreted “It’s eminently reasonable for people to just try to stop whatever is happening, which includes intention for social censure, convincing others, and coordinating social action” as being an alternative to engaging at all with the arguments of people who disagree with your positions here, rather than an alternative to having that standard in the outside world with people who are not operating under those norms.
I think it would be bad to suppress arguments! But I don’t see any arguments being suppressed here. Indeed, I see Zack as trying to create a standard where (for some reason) arguments about AI labs being reckless must be made directly to the people who are working at those labs, and other arguments should not be made, which seems weird to me. The OP seems to me like it’s making fine arguments.
I don’t think it was ever a requirement for participation on LessWrong to only ever engage in arguments that could change the minds of the specific people who you would like to do something else, as opposed to arguments that are generally compelling and might affect those people in indirect ways. It’s nice when it works out, but it really doesn’t seem like a tenet of LessWrong.
Ah, I had (incorrectly) interpreted “It’s eminently reasonable for people to just try to stop whatever is happening, which includes intention for social censure, convincing others, and coordinating social action” as being an alternative to engaging at all with the arguments of people who disagree with your positions here, rather than an alternative to having that standard in the outside world with people who are not operating under those norms.