Oh cool, thanks! Then he’s talking about exactly the thing I’m talking about, and he has a different idea about what the mechanism is, and I don’t like the sound of his treatment. I shall investigate.
I wonder what he thinks causes the low body temperature in the first place?
Thanks for the link! Have you happened upon a strong rebuttal of his claims, perchance?
And do you know if he happened upon the idea independently, or whether he’s an intellectual descendant of Barnes and Lowe?
They provide a list of Medical Providers for Wilson’s Temperature Syndrome that gives the addresses of doctors that supposedly follow their protocol. If you think it’s a lie, then you could count the number of doctors in their list and contact a few of them as a sample.
And do you know if he happened upon the idea independently, or whether he’s an intellectual descendant of Barnes and Lowe?
At the moment I don’t know much more than what’s written on the website.
I may be suffering from some sort of cross-cultural confusion, but Dr Morris’s website appears to exist solely to make him look like an irresponsible lunatic who has been handing out powerful hormones for weight loss, of all things.
Especially since I think that this has been tried many times and found wanting. On the other hand, my faith in medical science is perhaps not now as strong as once it was, and if he’s really an Ivy-League non-conformist, maybe he noticed the problem a long time ago.
What I liked about it was that he has apparently noticed that in doing this, he was accidentally curing Chronic Fatigue. Again, no idea whether what he’s doing actually works, or what sort of terrible side-effects it might cause, or anything.
But again, it looks far too obvious to be the right answer.
Does anyone know if there’s one of these maniacs in England? If I can find a semi-trustworthy source of T3/T4 I am tempted to experiment on myself to see if they work as well as desiccated thyroid. I’m a bit nervous of NDT myself since it’s probably an allergen, hypothyroids are prone to allergies, and I wouldn’t be terribly surprised if I caused one of the well-known thyroiditises by taking it.
One strong objection to Dr Morris’ idea is that if it’s T4->T3 conversion, then there so is a blood test to detect it. On the other hand, if he hasn’t been doing the blood tests, then he won’t have noticed that. And I now think I can explain what’s really going on. When I first looked at his website, I didn’t have the type 2 idea. It seemed like a minor detail of Lowe’s work, and I was focused on working out what was wrong with the tests.
He is claiming independent invention, and he never once mentions Barnes or Lowe.
I didn’t see any obvious pseudoscience. (no crystals, no magic electricity thought reading machines)
He doesn’t seem to have any obvious explanatory theory.
What I’ve read of what he has to say makes considerable sense to me in the light of the above.
He doesn’t seem to be claiming that there’s been a PCRT of his protocol, without which I don’t believe it works.
He is absolutely claiming that the condition can be cured. Not alleviated. Cured.
I think conventional medicine concluded that T3 monotherapy was a disaster when they tried it for thyroid problems. They’re currently involved in a twenty year catfight about whether adding a bit of T3 to the usual T4 is a good idea. They’ve tentatively concluded no, but I think (and Lowe thought) that their reasoning is wrong. And Kenneth Blanchard, who’s unconventional, but a proper endocrinologist, thinks it works a treat. On the other hand, I spotted a couple of mistakes in his book, so I don’t trust him either.
Has he (Wilson) published anything? If not, why not?
It all looks a bit too good to be true, to me.
And a bit too easy.… If it was this easy we should already know.
Indeed, in fact I think I might have seen it before and ignored it.
Very early on, when I was trying to work out what the hell was wrong with me, I read about ‘adrenal fatigue’, and thought it looked very plausible (amongst a very large number of other plausible possibilities), but Wiki said it wasn’t a thing, and my doctor agreed, so I forgot about it. Maybe since then I’ve had filters on.
There’s even a chapter of Durrant-Peatfield’s book, which I read cover to cover not three days ago, which mentions Wilson’s Syndrome in exactly the sort of way that you’d expect an English non-conformist to mention a man who’d named someone else’s ideas after himself.
But maybe that’s not true. Maybe Wilson really did come up with it on his own many years ago, before the internet would have enabled him to find Barnes or Lowe. Sure looks like it’s going a bit nuclear now.
And still endocrinology isn’t interested? What on earth is going on?
Oh cool, thanks! Then he’s talking about exactly the thing I’m talking about, and he has a different idea about what the mechanism is, and I don’t like the sound of his treatment. I shall investigate.
I wonder what he thinks causes the low body temperature in the first place?
Thanks for the link! Have you happened upon a strong rebuttal of his claims, perchance?
And do you know if he happened upon the idea independently, or whether he’s an intellectual descendant of Barnes and Lowe?
Hundreds of doctors has to be a lie, hasn’t it?
They provide a list of
Medical Providers for Wilson’s Temperature Syndrome
that gives the addresses of doctors that supposedly follow their protocol. If you think it’s a lie, then you could count the number of doctors in their list and contact a few of them as a sample.At the moment I don’t know much more than what’s written on the website.
Here’s another one I did look at ages ago:
http://t3doc.com/
I may be suffering from some sort of cross-cultural confusion, but Dr Morris’s website appears to exist solely to make him look like an irresponsible lunatic who has been handing out powerful hormones for weight loss, of all things.
Especially since I think that this has been tried many times and found wanting. On the other hand, my faith in medical science is perhaps not now as strong as once it was, and if he’s really an Ivy-League non-conformist, maybe he noticed the problem a long time ago.
What I liked about it was that he has apparently noticed that in doing this, he was accidentally curing Chronic Fatigue. Again, no idea whether what he’s doing actually works, or what sort of terrible side-effects it might cause, or anything.
But again, it looks far too obvious to be the right answer.
Does anyone know if there’s one of these maniacs in England? If I can find a semi-trustworthy source of T3/T4 I am tempted to experiment on myself to see if they work as well as desiccated thyroid. I’m a bit nervous of NDT myself since it’s probably an allergen, hypothyroids are prone to allergies, and I wouldn’t be terribly surprised if I caused one of the well-known thyroiditises by taking it.
One strong objection to Dr Morris’ idea is that if it’s T4->T3 conversion, then there so is a blood test to detect it. On the other hand, if he hasn’t been doing the blood tests, then he won’t have noticed that. And I now think I can explain what’s really going on. When I first looked at his website, I didn’t have the type 2 idea. It seemed like a minor detail of Lowe’s work, and I was focused on working out what was wrong with the tests.
OK, a brief look around Wilson’s site gives me:
He is claiming independent invention, and he never once mentions Barnes or Lowe.
I didn’t see any obvious pseudoscience. (no crystals, no magic electricity thought reading machines)
He doesn’t seem to have any obvious explanatory theory.
What I’ve read of what he has to say makes considerable sense to me in the light of the above.
He doesn’t seem to be claiming that there’s been a PCRT of his protocol, without which I don’t believe it works.
He is absolutely claiming that the condition can be cured. Not alleviated. Cured.
I think conventional medicine concluded that T3 monotherapy was a disaster when they tried it for thyroid problems. They’re currently involved in a twenty year catfight about whether adding a bit of T3 to the usual T4 is a good idea. They’ve tentatively concluded no, but I think (and Lowe thought) that their reasoning is wrong. And Kenneth Blanchard, who’s unconventional, but a proper endocrinologist, thinks it works a treat. On the other hand, I spotted a couple of mistakes in his book, so I don’t trust him either.
Has he (Wilson) published anything? If not, why not?
It all looks a bit too good to be true, to me.
And a bit too easy.… If it was this easy we should already know.
On the other hand, how the hell did I miss this?
I found it by googling:
Low Body Temperature chronic fatigue syndrom
Indeed, in fact I think I might have seen it before and ignored it.
Very early on, when I was trying to work out what the hell was wrong with me, I read about ‘adrenal fatigue’, and thought it looked very plausible (amongst a very large number of other plausible possibilities), but Wiki said it wasn’t a thing, and my doctor agreed, so I forgot about it. Maybe since then I’ve had filters on.
There’s even a chapter of Durrant-Peatfield’s book, which I read cover to cover not three days ago, which mentions Wilson’s Syndrome in exactly the sort of way that you’d expect an English non-conformist to mention a man who’d named someone else’s ideas after himself.
But maybe that’s not true. Maybe Wilson really did come up with it on his own many years ago, before the internet would have enabled him to find Barnes or Lowe. Sure looks like it’s going a bit nuclear now.
And still endocrinology isn’t interested? What on earth is going on?