a device capable of measuring quantum levels events
The brain doesn’t do this,
You don’t know that, since no one does.
Dice are deterministic.
You don’t know that either. A number of random number generators have enough sensitivity to initial conditions to reach the quantum level.
Chaotic behavior != indeterminism
Confusing phrased. Classical chaos could exist in a deterministic universe, but it can also exist in an indeterministic universe where classical behaviour is a high level approximation. In that kind of universe, classical chaos acts ad a natural amplifier.
I assume they are using the “physics is deterministic” assumption when they tell me our thought process is a physical process.
My OP above questions this and I speculate that there is randomness in base physics (quantum or somewhere else, maybe at macro level too when systems cross certain levels of complexity).
Some people seem to think that incompatibilist free will is definitionally the ability to transcend physics, although voluntarists don’t usually define it that way. It may be a confusions arising from the fact that if physics is determimistic, an override would be needed to get incompatibilist FW.
Since when was “physical” a synonym for “deterministic”
Name one non-deterministic macroscopic process that affects objects on the scale of neurons.
Any process critically dependent on its starting conditions = chaos.
Any microscopic event triggered by a device capable of measuring quantum levels events, eg a bomb hooked up to a geiger counter.
Typical stochastic devices, such as dice.
The brain doesn’t do this, so how is this relevant to free will?
Dice are deterministic. Chaotic behavior != indeterminism.
You don’t know that, since no one does.
You don’t know that either. A number of random number generators have enough sensitivity to initial conditions to reach the quantum level.
Confusing phrased. Classical chaos could exist in a deterministic universe, but it can also exist in an indeterministic universe where classical behaviour is a high level approximation. In that kind of universe, classical chaos acts ad a natural amplifier.
I assume they are using the “physics is deterministic” assumption when they tell me our thought process is a physical process.
My OP above questions this and I speculate that there is randomness in base physics (quantum or somewhere else, maybe at macro level too when systems cross certain levels of complexity).
Some people seem to think that incompatibilist free will is definitionally the ability to transcend physics, although voluntarists don’t usually define it that way. It may be a confusions arising from the fact that if physics is determimistic, an override would be needed to get incompatibilist FW.