As another outside observer I also got the impression that the Duncan conflict was the most significant of the ones leading up to the ban, since he wrote a giant post advocating for banning Said, left the site in a huff shortly thereafter, and seems to be the main example of a top contributor by your lights who said they didn’t post due to Said.
Nah, you can see in the moderation history that we threatened Said with bans and moderation actions for many years before then. My honest best guess is that we would have banned Said somewhat earlier if not for the Duncan thread, though that we also wouldn’t have given him a rate-limit around that time, but it’s of course hard to tell.
My experience was that Said’s behavior in the Duncan thread was among the most understandable cases of him behaving badly (because I too have found myself ending up drawn into conflicts with Duncan that end up quite aggressive and at least tempt me to behave badly). That’s part why I don’t link to any comments of his in the thread above (I might somewhere in there, but if so it’s not intended as a particularly load-bearing part of the case).
As another outside observer I also got the impression that the Duncan conflict was the most significant of the ones leading up to the ban, since he wrote a giant post advocating for banning Said, left the site in a huff shortly thereafter, and seems to be the main example of a top contributor by your lights who said they didn’t post due to Said.
Nah, you can see in the moderation history that we threatened Said with bans and moderation actions for many years before then. My honest best guess is that we would have banned Said somewhat earlier if not for the Duncan thread, though that we also wouldn’t have given him a rate-limit around that time, but it’s of course hard to tell.
My experience was that Said’s behavior in the Duncan thread was among the most understandable cases of him behaving badly (because I too have found myself ending up drawn into conflicts with Duncan that end up quite aggressive and at least tempt me to behave badly). That’s part why I don’t link to any comments of his in the thread above (I might somewhere in there, but if so it’s not intended as a particularly load-bearing part of the case).