Also, you don’t necessarily need to think about investment strategy or influencing corporate decisions in a coop, since you can grant someone a proxy.
You definitely need to think about these things to value working in a coop (or a corporation in which part of your compensation is voting stock) vs “just a job”. If you are going to just grant a proxy, you’d prefer to be paid more in money and less in control.
Also also, why are socialist-vibe blogposts so often relegated to “personal blogpost” while capitalist-vibe blogposts aren’t? I mean, I get the automatic barrage of downvotes, but you’d think the mods would at least try to appear impartial.
I upvoted, but I don’t expect it to be particularly popular or front-page-worthy. It may be partly about the vibe, but I suspect it’s mostly about the content—it’s a little less rigorous in causality of impact than the more common front-page topics, and it comes across as an attempt to influence rather than to explore or analyze from a rational(ist) standpoint.
You definitely need to think about these things to value working in a coop (or a corporation in which part of your compensation is voting stock) vs “just a job”. If you are going to just grant a proxy, you’d prefer to be paid more in money and less in control.
This is a false dilemma. By granting a proxy you can keep the money while relinquishing control. But even if it was true that you’d be sacrificing money there are still people who don’t want to think about corporate governance but do want to fight the evils of capitalism and thus would be happy to give a fellow co-op member a proxy rather than earning a bit more (e.g. me).
I upvoted, but I don’t expect it to be particularly popular or front-page-worthy. It may be partly about the vibe, but I suspect it’s mostly about the content—it’s a little less rigorous in causality of impact than the more common front-page topics, and it comes across as an attempt to influence rather than to explore or analyze from a rational(ist) standpoint.
No it’s the vibe, I ran a natural experiment to test it and it’s clearly just the vibe. I posted the same measured even-handed post on co-ops to the EA forum and LW, but in the former they were called co-ops in the latter socialst firms. The former was upvoted, the latter was downvoted. Also, the most venerated posts on LW (e.g. the sequences) often don’t even cite their sources, while that post cited dozens of scientific studies. Also also, my other recent post on co-ops was also data-heavy and it also got downvoted. Rationalists just have an anti-socialist bias.
You definitely need to think about these things to value working in a coop (or a corporation in which part of your compensation is voting stock) vs “just a job”. If you are going to just grant a proxy, you’d prefer to be paid more in money and less in control.
I upvoted, but I don’t expect it to be particularly popular or front-page-worthy. It may be partly about the vibe, but I suspect it’s mostly about the content—it’s a little less rigorous in causality of impact than the more common front-page topics, and it comes across as an attempt to influence rather than to explore or analyze from a rational(ist) standpoint.
This is a false dilemma. By granting a proxy you can keep the money while relinquishing control. But even if it was true that you’d be sacrificing money there are still people who don’t want to think about corporate governance but do want to fight the evils of capitalism and thus would be happy to give a fellow co-op member a proxy rather than earning a bit more (e.g. me).
No it’s the vibe, I ran a natural experiment to test it and it’s clearly just the vibe. I posted the same measured even-handed post on co-ops to the EA forum and LW, but in the former they were called co-ops in the latter socialst firms. The former was upvoted, the latter was downvoted. Also, the most venerated posts on LW (e.g. the sequences) often don’t even cite their sources, while that post cited dozens of scientific studies. Also also, my other recent post on co-ops was also data-heavy and it also got downvoted. Rationalists just have an anti-socialist bias.