Although I find the text inspiring and its principles interesting, I have some questions:
How were these twelve virtues specifically identified?
Is there a particular reason for this order, starting with curiosity and ending with emptiness?
Are there any studies or practical experiences that support that these particular virtues are more effective than others in improving rational thinking?
I believe that having answers to these questions would significantly strengthen the argument and help in better implementing these virtues in practice.
They’re a summarization of a lot of vibes from the Sequences.
Artistic choice, I assume. It doesn’t bear on the argument.
Yudkowsky explains all about the virtues in the Sequences. For studies, there are broad studies on cognitive science (especially relating to bias) but you’ll be hard-pressed to match them precisely to one virtue or another. Mostly, Yudkowsky’s opinions on these virtues are supported by academic literature, but I’m not aware of any work that showcases this clearly. For practical experience, you can look into the legacy of the Center For Applied Rationality (CFAR) which tried for years to do just that: train people to get better at life using rationality. Mostly, I was under the impression that they had medium success, but I haven’t looked deeply into it.
Thanks for your attention. I’m going to answer you with my dyslexia, because it seems better than going through an LLM and something less personal. Be prepared, haha. Yes, it was difficult for me, but I read the rationality from A to Z and everything, and I see that there’s a lot of sense in everything here. I just miss that more rational connection. I’m saying, take a leap of faith, without showing all the inferential steps necessary for the conclusion. Yes, I see that it’s more poetic and inspirational, even though he didn’t explicitly cite it, it seems the most likely. Yes, I see many signs of Yudukowski’s struggle. He’s the Bayesian rationality fighter I love the most, both for his goals and his style. However, I’m particularly looking for that, how to structure latent virtues or values with the fewest possible inferential steps. Level of objective greed: very difficult. Risks: even more so. Haha. And you, how are you trying to be better?
Although I find the text inspiring and its principles interesting, I have some questions:
How were these twelve virtues specifically identified?
Is there a particular reason for this order, starting with curiosity and ending with emptiness?
Are there any studies or practical experiences that support that these particular virtues are more effective than others in improving rational thinking?
I believe that having answers to these questions would significantly strengthen the argument and help in better implementing these virtues in practice.
Has anyone else reflected on these aspects?
They’re a summarization of a lot of vibes from the Sequences.
Artistic choice, I assume. It doesn’t bear on the argument.
Yudkowsky explains all about the virtues in the Sequences.
For studies, there are broad studies on cognitive science (especially relating to bias) but you’ll be hard-pressed to match them precisely to one virtue or another. Mostly, Yudkowsky’s opinions on these virtues are supported by academic literature, but I’m not aware of any work that showcases this clearly.
For practical experience, you can look into the legacy of the Center For Applied Rationality (CFAR) which tried for years to do just that: train people to get better at life using rationality. Mostly, I was under the impression that they had medium success, but I haven’t looked deeply into it.
Thanks for your attention. I’m going to answer you with my dyslexia, because it seems better than going through an LLM and something less personal. Be prepared, haha.
Yes, it was difficult for me, but I read the rationality from A to Z and everything, and I see that there’s a lot of sense in everything here. I just miss that more rational connection. I’m saying, take a leap of faith, without showing all the inferential steps necessary for the conclusion.
Yes, I see that it’s more poetic and inspirational, even though he didn’t explicitly cite it, it seems the most likely.
Yes, I see many signs of Yudukowski’s struggle. He’s the Bayesian rationality fighter I love the most, both for his goals and his style.
However, I’m particularly looking for that, how to structure latent virtues or values with the fewest possible inferential steps. Level of objective greed: very difficult. Risks: even more so. Haha.
And you, how are you trying to be better?