. User:ABrooks made a post about FAI that didn’t fit in with local ideas, and consequently almost all of his comments were immediately downvoted.
Link? I don’t see a post by him.
Edit: Found it. It’s one I downvoted but without it having enough impact on me to even remember that ABrooks is a user. I believe I stopped reading after the first couple of paragraphs after it introduce a premise that seemed fundamentally absurd. Something to do with it being not being theoretically possible to create an AI without teaching it to think through interaction. (I mean… what? Identify the thing that is an AI after it has been taught to think then combine bits of matter in such a way that you have that AI. Basic physical reductionism!)
I’m a little surprised that he got mass downvoted (ie. of other comments, not that particular post). For that matter I’m a little surprised that the specific post got significantly downvoted. Usually things far more stupid than that stay positive*. Did he get into personal bickering with a specific individual at all? That’s what I usually associate with mass downvotes.
* “Usually things far more stupid than that stay positive” of course really means “of posts that are far more stupid than that immediately spring to my mind most are those that are not downvoted.”
Something to do with it being not being theoretically possible to create an AI without teaching it to think through interaction. (I mean… what? Identify the thing that is an AI after it has been taught to think then combine bits of matter in such a way that you have that AI. Basic physical reductionism!)
Well, one could make a computational complexity argument that there is no way to ” Identify the thing that is an AI after it has been taught to think” other then actually interacting with it.
Sure, but once you do so, then you can build another that you didn’t interact with.
On the other hand, how much variation do you need to introduce before you can declare that the second copy is a different intelligence than the one that you copied it from? And how sure can you be that it’s still an AI after this variation? So there’s an argument to be made there, although I’m far from convinced for now.
Link? I don’t see a post by him.
Edit: Found it. It’s one I downvoted but without it having enough impact on me to even remember that ABrooks is a user. I believe I stopped reading after the first couple of paragraphs after it introduce a premise that seemed fundamentally absurd. Something to do with it being not being theoretically possible to create an AI without teaching it to think through interaction. (I mean… what? Identify the thing that is an AI after it has been taught to think then combine bits of matter in such a way that you have that AI. Basic physical reductionism!)
I’m a little surprised that he got mass downvoted (ie. of other comments, not that particular post). For that matter I’m a little surprised that the specific post got significantly downvoted. Usually things far more stupid than that stay positive*. Did he get into personal bickering with a specific individual at all? That’s what I usually associate with mass downvotes.
* “Usually things far more stupid than that stay positive” of course really means “of posts that are far more stupid than that immediately spring to my mind most are those that are not downvoted.”
Well, one could make a computational complexity argument that there is no way to ” Identify the thing that is an AI after it has been taught to think” other then actually interacting with it.
Sure, but once you do so, then you can build another that you didn’t interact with.
On the other hand, how much variation do you need to introduce before you can declare that the second copy is a different intelligence than the one that you copied it from? And how sure can you be that it’s still an AI after this variation? So there’s an argument to be made there, although I’m far from convinced for now.