I think the reality is that Eliezer Yudowsky, while a very bright mind and great man in terms of rationality, has overstepped his limits when it comes to physics.
He do admit that there is currently no satisfactory solution to the Born Rule issue, yet he has written several posts talking about MWI as it is “obviously true”. That is quite irrational.
Quantum mechanics is, after all, ALL about the probabilities predicted by Born Rule, that is the essence of QM, if a model gets these probabilities wrong, it is obviously in deep trouble.
I am quite dissapointed in Yudowsky for not admitting that he may have overstepped his area of expertise and mislead people to think that the case for MWI was stronger than it ACTUALLY is.
I think it might be that he thinks the only other alternative is anti-realism or indeterminism, which is wrong, I dispise and absolutely object to both antirealism and indeterminism, but thee are other realist interpretations out there and the fact that we got no quantum gravity solution nor any ToE should force even the most stubborn MWI’ers to keep their minds open and refrain from claiming that it is true.
He do admit that there is currently no satisfactory solution to the Born Rule issue, yet he has written several posts talking about MWI as it is “obviously true”. That is quite irrational.
That doesn’t remotely follow—at least not without a rather antagonistic interpretation of Eliezer’s position. Eliezer is clearly not claiming that there is a theory that gives a good explanation for what causes the Born Rule to behave as it does. He is just claiming that supporting a theory that tries to pretend there is just one world given what we do know about physics would be batshit crazy.
and the fact that we got no quantum gravity solution nor any ToE should force even the most stubborn MWI’ers to keep their minds open and refrain from claiming that it is true.
To precisely the same extent that the a lack of a quantum gravity should oblige people not to affiliate with general relativity.
“tries to pretend there is just one world give nwhat we do know about physics would be batshit crazy” what?
All we ever have observed supports a single universe…
When you try to postulate infinite worlds to explain QM, you end up getting QM wrong, so it would be batshit crazy to insist on othe worlds.
Well, i’d like to know how you can defend an interpretation of a theory that is all about the Born Rule as correct when it does not get the Born Rule right?
I think the reality is that Eliezer Yudowsky, while a very bright mind and great man in terms of rationality, has overstepped his limits when it comes to physics.
He do admit that there is currently no satisfactory solution to the Born Rule issue, yet he has written several posts talking about MWI as it is “obviously true”. That is quite irrational. Quantum mechanics is, after all, ALL about the probabilities predicted by Born Rule, that is the essence of QM, if a model gets these probabilities wrong, it is obviously in deep trouble.
I am quite dissapointed in Yudowsky for not admitting that he may have overstepped his area of expertise and mislead people to think that the case for MWI was stronger than it ACTUALLY is.
I think it might be that he thinks the only other alternative is anti-realism or indeterminism, which is wrong, I dispise and absolutely object to both antirealism and indeterminism, but thee are other realist interpretations out there and the fact that we got no quantum gravity solution nor any ToE should force even the most stubborn MWI’ers to keep their minds open and refrain from claiming that it is true.
That doesn’t remotely follow—at least not without a rather antagonistic interpretation of Eliezer’s position. Eliezer is clearly not claiming that there is a theory that gives a good explanation for what causes the Born Rule to behave as it does. He is just claiming that supporting a theory that tries to pretend there is just one world given what we do know about physics would be batshit crazy.
To precisely the same extent that the a lack of a quantum gravity should oblige people not to affiliate with general relativity.
Uh, this language does not help rational discourse.
“tries to pretend there is just one world give nwhat we do know about physics would be batshit crazy” what? All we ever have observed supports a single universe… When you try to postulate infinite worlds to explain QM, you end up getting QM wrong, so it would be batshit crazy to insist on othe worlds.
Ok, that clarifies your position somewhat.
Well, i’d like to know how you can defend an interpretation of a theory that is all about the Born Rule as correct when it does not get the Born Rule right?
The Born rule ends up being postulated in one disguise or another in any interpretation, with various degrees of success.