Is the “fake vs real thinking” distinction about the same thing? Like, thinking which uses mental representations of the real world vs mental representations of other worlds?
I think it’s more that modeling/thinking about the real world requires constant effort of paying attention/updating/inferring. Not doing that and operating off of a dream mashup is the default. So it’s not that there are real vs. other-world representations, it’s that grounding yourself in the real world requires sophisticated inference-time cognitive work, rather than just retrieving cached computations and cobbling them together.
(And then LLMs could only do the cobbling-together thing, they’re always living in the dream mashup.)
How would more data and software live in reality? What would the Great Generalized Google Maps project include, in what order? What data structures would it use for more abstract things?
Per above, we’d need tighter feedback loops/quicker updates, appropriate markings of when content/procedures become outdated, some ability to compare various elements of constructed realities against the ground truth whenever the ground truth becomes known, etc. (Consider if Google Maps were updating very slowly, and also had some layer on top of its object-level observations whose representations relied on chains of inferences from the ground-true data but without quick ground-true feedback. That’d gradually migrate it to a fictional world as well.)
The general-purpose solution is probably some system that’d incentivize people to flag divergences from reality… Prediction markets?
I think it’s more that modeling/thinking about the real world requires constant effort of paying attention/updating/inferring. Not doing that and operating off of a dream mashup is the default. So it’s not that there are real vs. other-world representations, it’s that grounding yourself in the real world requires sophisticated inference-time cognitive work, rather than just retrieving cached computations and cobbling them together.
(And then LLMs could only do the cobbling-together thing, they’re always living in the dream mashup.)
Per above, we’d need tighter feedback loops/quicker updates, appropriate markings of when content/procedures become outdated, some ability to compare various elements of constructed realities against the ground truth whenever the ground truth becomes known, etc. (Consider if Google Maps were updating very slowly, and also had some layer on top of its object-level observations whose representations relied on chains of inferences from the ground-true data but without quick ground-true feedback. That’d gradually migrate it to a fictional world as well.)
The general-purpose solution is probably some system that’d incentivize people to flag divergences from reality… Prediction markets?