Importantly, we only need “narrower” AI systems that have human-level capabilities in the relevant domains to do as well as humans on alignment research. We expect these AI systems are easier to align than general-purpose systems or systems much smarter than humans.
I would have guessed the claim is “boxing the AI system during training will be helpful for ensuring that the resulting AI system is aligned”, rather than “after training, the AI system might be trying to pursue its own goals, but we’ll ensure it can’t accomplish them via boxing”. But I can see your interpretation as well.
Oh, I do think a bunch of my problems with WebGPT is that we are training the system on direct internet access.
I agree that “train a system with internet access, but then remove it, then hope that it’s safe”, doesn’t really make much sense. In-general, I expect bad things to happen during training, and separately, a lot of the problems that I have with training things on the internet is that it’s an environment that seems like it would incentivize a lot of agency and make supervision really hard because you have a ton of permanent side effects.
Oh you’re making a claim directly about other people’s approaches, not about what other people think about their own approaches. Okay, that makes sense (though I disagree).
Oh, I do think a bunch of my problems with WebGPT is that we are training the system on direct internet access.
I agree that “train a system with internet access, but then remove it, then hope that it’s safe”, doesn’t really make much sense.
I was suggesting that the plan was “train a system without Internet access, then add it at deployment time” (aka “box the AI system during training”). I wasn’t at any point talking about WebGPT.
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I would have guessed the claim is “boxing the AI system during training will be helpful for ensuring that the resulting AI system is aligned”, rather than “after training, the AI system might be trying to pursue its own goals, but we’ll ensure it can’t accomplish them via boxing”. But I can see your interpretation as well.
Oh, I do think a bunch of my problems with WebGPT is that we are training the system on direct internet access.
I agree that “train a system with internet access, but then remove it, then hope that it’s safe”, doesn’t really make much sense. In-general, I expect bad things to happen during training, and separately, a lot of the problems that I have with training things on the internet is that it’s an environment that seems like it would incentivize a lot of agency and make supervision really hard because you have a ton of permanent side effects.
Oh you’re making a claim directly about other people’s approaches, not about what other people think about their own approaches. Okay, that makes sense (though I disagree).
I was suggesting that the plan was “train a system without Internet access, then add it at deployment time” (aka “box the AI system during training”). I wasn’t at any point talking about WebGPT.