Tried. Don’t expect my results to be generalizable.
Once again, I have no reason to believe that same would happen to anyone.
In any case: Not many good medicines induce vomit. Most people who try it, use water, specially warm water, with mustard. This has all sorts of complications because mustard has a taste and a smell etc… nevertheless, no one in the pharmacy or wikipedia or friends who read pharmapapers had any other indication that would beat mustard water.
I wanted to stop liking chocolate. I waited for a while, so the organism would be sure it was not from lunch, and at dinner time I eat a lot of chocolate, and drank some mustard water. I kept looking at, smelling and thinking about chocolate, and would taste chocolate instantaneously after quickly swallowing the mustard water with my nose held.
It was obvious something bad was going on inside me, less than 10 seconds after the mustard. But my body is not a natural regurgitator. Long story short, I failed to even regurgitate. And now I can say that the weirdest meal I have ever had was composed of 120 grams of white chocolate, 100 grams of lindt milk chocolate, 100 grams of yellow mustard, 1,5 liter of water, and 50 grams of extra strong seedy mustard.
After that I started thinking about fighting for Monsieur Mangetout Guinness title for eating metals and glasses…
Thanks for actually trying this! I tried to get hold of syrup of ipecac, which seems to reliably cause vomiting, but it’s hard to get in US pharmacies, and Amazon doesn’t sell it (except homeopathically). Did your friends say that mustard water works better than syrup of ipecac?
Another datapoint: I tried this a while back with mustard powder in warm water. I ate some chocolate, then downed around a cup of warm water with mustard powder (I forget how much powder it was). This was insufficient to make me vomit; I only felt slightly nauseated. I tried using my finger, wrapped in toilet paper, to agitate my uvula (the thing that hangs from the roof of the mouth behind the tongue). This made me gag, but not vomit. I tried again the next day, with the same results. I may have eaten slightly less chocolate after this, but I failed to develop any long-lasting taste aversion.
I tried to get hold of syrup of ipecac before trying the mustard powder, but nobody sells it, not even online, except homeopathically—not even on eBay, or on sketchy chemistry-supply websites. It stopped being sold around 2005 because a review said that it’s not useful for curing poisoning. (Because vomiting doesn’t always get rid of poison, and it complicates the diagnosis. So the main reason isn’t that it’s bad for you, although it’s obviously bad for you too.)
I don’t think warm water and mustard make for a very good emetic. Next time I or someone else tries this, I think we should try the finger-in-mouth technique, together with syrup of ipecac (if that can be obtained), or smelling extremely powerful bad smells, or maybe warm saltwater.
I also looked around on pro-bulimia boards online (yes, such things exist), but they didn’t seem to have any ideas beyond what’s listed above.
Bad smells wont work since the pavlovian association will be with the smell. We have to do it through transcranial magnetic stimuli to the pons and Area Postrema, like they do in rodents. In rodents it works perfectly.
Anyone know how to do that? I’d be very happy to vomit in an EEG or FMRI
This seems very valuable. Will try, and try to remember to post results.
Tried. Don’t expect my results to be generalizable.
Once again, I have no reason to believe that same would happen to anyone.
In any case: Not many good medicines induce vomit. Most people who try it, use water, specially warm water, with mustard. This has all sorts of complications because mustard has a taste and a smell etc… nevertheless, no one in the pharmacy or wikipedia or friends who read pharmapapers had any other indication that would beat mustard water.
I wanted to stop liking chocolate. I waited for a while, so the organism would be sure it was not from lunch, and at dinner time I eat a lot of chocolate, and drank some mustard water. I kept looking at, smelling and thinking about chocolate, and would taste chocolate instantaneously after quickly swallowing the mustard water with my nose held.
It was obvious something bad was going on inside me, less than 10 seconds after the mustard. But my body is not a natural regurgitator. Long story short, I failed to even regurgitate. And now I can say that the weirdest meal I have ever had was composed of 120 grams of white chocolate, 100 grams of lindt milk chocolate, 100 grams of yellow mustard, 1,5 liter of water, and 50 grams of extra strong seedy mustard.
After that I started thinking about fighting for Monsieur Mangetout Guinness title for eating metals and glasses…
Thanks for actually trying this! I tried to get hold of syrup of ipecac, which seems to reliably cause vomiting, but it’s hard to get in US pharmacies, and Amazon doesn’t sell it (except homeopathically). Did your friends say that mustard water works better than syrup of ipecac?
Does this mean you still like chocolate?
The White chocolate bar was 170 grams. the other 50 I ate the next day. Delicious, as always.
Another datapoint: I tried this a while back with mustard powder in warm water. I ate some chocolate, then downed around a cup of warm water with mustard powder (I forget how much powder it was). This was insufficient to make me vomit; I only felt slightly nauseated. I tried using my finger, wrapped in toilet paper, to agitate my uvula (the thing that hangs from the roof of the mouth behind the tongue). This made me gag, but not vomit. I tried again the next day, with the same results. I may have eaten slightly less chocolate after this, but I failed to develop any long-lasting taste aversion.
I tried to get hold of syrup of ipecac before trying the mustard powder, but nobody sells it, not even online, except homeopathically—not even on eBay, or on sketchy chemistry-supply websites. It stopped being sold around 2005 because a review said that it’s not useful for curing poisoning. (Because vomiting doesn’t always get rid of poison, and it complicates the diagnosis. So the main reason isn’t that it’s bad for you, although it’s obviously bad for you too.)
I don’t think warm water and mustard make for a very good emetic. Next time I or someone else tries this, I think we should try the finger-in-mouth technique, together with syrup of ipecac (if that can be obtained), or smelling extremely powerful bad smells, or maybe warm saltwater.
I also looked around on pro-bulimia boards online (yes, such things exist), but they didn’t seem to have any ideas beyond what’s listed above.
Bad smells wont work since the pavlovian association will be with the smell. We have to do it through transcranial magnetic stimuli to the pons and Area Postrema, like they do in rodents. In rodents it works perfectly.
Anyone know how to do that? I’d be very happy to vomit in an EEG or FMRI