I don’t see a reason to suppose that a sufficiently intelligent intelligence would experience valence, or for that matter that it would necessarily even be conscious
I do not make those assumptions.
nor, if conscious, that it would value the happiness of other conscious entities
I don’t suppose that either, I give an argument for that (in the longer post).
Anyway:
I am not convinced by the longer post either
I’m not surprised: I don’t expect that my argument will move masses of people who are convinced of the opposite claim, but that someone who is uncertain and open-minded can read my argument and maybe find something useful in it and/or a reason to update their beliefs. That’s also why I wrote that the practical implications for AI are an important part of that post, and why I made some predictions instead of focusing just on philosophy.
But you were arguing for them, weren’t you? It is the arguments that fail to convince me. I was not treating these as bald assertions.
No, I don’t argue that “a sufficiently intelligent intelligence would experience valence, or for that matter that it would necessarily even be conscious”. I think those statements are false.
Hey I think your comment is slightly misleading:
I do not make those assumptions.
I don’t suppose that either, I give an argument for that (in the longer post).
Anyway:
I’m not surprised: I don’t expect that my argument will move masses of people who are convinced of the opposite claim, but that someone who is uncertain and open-minded can read my argument and maybe find something useful in it and/or a reason to update their beliefs. That’s also why I wrote that the practical implications for AI are an important part of that post, and why I made some predictions instead of focusing just on philosophy.
But you were arguing for them, weren’t you? It is the arguments that fail to convince me. I was not treating these as bald assertions.
Being sure of a thing does not preclude my entertaining other ideas.
No, I don’t argue that “a sufficiently intelligent intelligence would experience valence, or for that matter that it would necessarily even be conscious”. I think those statements are false.