Losing one’s job to avoid missing a house meeting (needed to work late) is the kind of bad priority that should be addressed.
Perhaps some kind of explicit measure where housemates judge and excuse or not each case on a case-by-case basis, including a measure to request leave in advance as well as in arrears?
Sorry, I should’ve been more clear. “Kinda” was the important operational word, there, and you’re correct to point out that the priorities could be easily be construed as clearly bad.
I think your latter norm is basically what’s going to happen. The key thing I want to avoid is the slippery slope whereby there’s no clear line of “this counts as a defection.” I think needing to work late is 100% acceptable. What I was pointing at was something like, “I could wrap this up by coming in early tomorrow, or I could defect on the standing group exercise appointment …”
I want to thank you for the number of concrete, clear criticisms you’re making, and the manner in which you’re making them. I like your style.
A defection would be any case in which a member did not arrive on time or participate fully. Period.
I’m suggesting that there be a formal process by which a member arrives late, performs ten pushups, and joins the event in progress. At the conclusion of the event, he says “My Uber driver was involved in a minor collision on my way here and that delayed me for too long to arrive on time.” and (by secret ballot?) the Army votes and some adequate margin of them excuse the failure.
The other aspect I suggested is that a Dragon might say “[event] is next week and I would like to attend but it conflicts with exercise. May I be excused from exercise for [event]?”. Again, the Army would vote and decide if the absence is excused.
I’m at a loss as to what to do to sanction a member who is not excused. The military has a long list of ‘corrective actions’ and ‘punishments’ that they can apply only because they don’t constitute ‘kidnapping’ or other crimes. I guess you could possibly make those ‘[task] or removal from the Army’, but that runs straight into the eviction problem. I think that it’s absolutely critical that there’s a credible threat underlying the discipline, precisely so that it is less likely to be needed, and the only one I find plausible is ejection, which becomes complicated because of Housing law and morality.
Losing one’s job to avoid missing a house meeting (needed to work late) is the kind of bad priority that should be addressed.
Perhaps some kind of explicit measure where housemates judge and excuse or not each case on a case-by-case basis, including a measure to request leave in advance as well as in arrears?
Sorry, I should’ve been more clear. “Kinda” was the important operational word, there, and you’re correct to point out that the priorities could be easily be construed as clearly bad.
I think your latter norm is basically what’s going to happen. The key thing I want to avoid is the slippery slope whereby there’s no clear line of “this counts as a defection.” I think needing to work late is 100% acceptable. What I was pointing at was something like, “I could wrap this up by coming in early tomorrow, or I could defect on the standing group exercise appointment …”
I want to thank you for the number of concrete, clear criticisms you’re making, and the manner in which you’re making them. I like your style.
A defection would be any case in which a member did not arrive on time or participate fully. Period.
I’m suggesting that there be a formal process by which a member arrives late, performs ten pushups, and joins the event in progress. At the conclusion of the event, he says “My Uber driver was involved in a minor collision on my way here and that delayed me for too long to arrive on time.” and (by secret ballot?) the Army votes and some adequate margin of them excuse the failure.
The other aspect I suggested is that a Dragon might say “[event] is next week and I would like to attend but it conflicts with exercise. May I be excused from exercise for [event]?”. Again, the Army would vote and decide if the absence is excused.
I’m at a loss as to what to do to sanction a member who is not excused. The military has a long list of ‘corrective actions’ and ‘punishments’ that they can apply only because they don’t constitute ‘kidnapping’ or other crimes. I guess you could possibly make those ‘[task] or removal from the Army’, but that runs straight into the eviction problem. I think that it’s absolutely critical that there’s a credible threat underlying the discipline, precisely so that it is less likely to be needed, and the only one I find plausible is ejection, which becomes complicated because of Housing law and morality.