Sam Rosen

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Sam Rosen 28 Dec 2024 6:30 UTC
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Some people think the Bible or Quran was written by the infinitely intelligent creator of the universe. I think this is a failure of imagination.
What do I mean?
Like really, you don’t think such a being would write a *better* book?
Imagine a book that you could read both forwards and backwards. As in, the letters in all the words just so happen to be arranged such that the book could be meaningfully read both ways with different messages. That alone would be insane. But then also the chapter titles formed an acrostic and the whole book rhymed.
Oh and the book contains so much scientific and mathematical knowledge that it would make scientists and mathematicians irrelevant for hundreds of years.
Oh and the book is so beautifully written that human beings 99% of the time cry and convert upon reading it.
Imagine a book that not only gives fantastic advice on current issues, with all their nuances and sub-nuances, but gives detailed advice about situations that will not occur for thousands of years.
Oh and it gives detailed advice about how to interpret it, so there are no feuds about the correct way to interpret it.
An infinitely intelligent God could definitely write such a book.
So why would he give us… the Bible or the Quran?
If your response to this is, “Oh, a limited mind could never comprehend what an infinite mind would create,” then you are committed to believing that if, if the Bible/Quran consisted of hundreds of pages saying, “I, Lord Poopy Butt, commandeth you to rub poop on your poopy faces, throw poop at each other, roll around in poop, and make poop hats...” you couldn’t say, “I don’t think an infinite mind would create that...” Instead, you’d have to say, “A limited being like me could never know what an infinite mind might do.”

Sam Rosen 22 Dec 2024 22:54 UTC
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I *despise* the category of “social construction.” “Race is a social construct.” “Gender is a social construct.”
It confusingly conflates these three:
- Socially Constituted: Something that only exists because we say it does.
- Socially Chunked: Something that exists as a spectrum in the real world that we—with some arbitrariness—chunk into discrete categories.
- Socially Charged: Something that exists in the real world that we decide to assign social importance to.
Examples:
Socially Constituted: *country borders* (They only exist because we believe in them. If we decided there is not border between Canada and the US, there wouldn’t be one.)
Socially Chunked: *colors* (There are real electromagnetic wavelengths in the world that don’t depend on our beliefs, but it’s our choice to lump cyan with blue.)
Socially Charged: *holding hands*. (We decide what holding hands means socially but holding hands exists in the world and does not exist on a spectrum that we arbitrarily chunk.)
Socially Charged & Socially Chunked: *mental illness* (There’s real mental variation in the world that exists on a spectrum. We decide how to chunk these and give those chunks social significance.)
I hope these will help you think more clearly about race and gender.

Sam Rosen 20 Dec 2024 6:49 UTC
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Same. It’s especially true because if a knight saw a T-Rex he wouldn’t hesitate to call it a dragon. He wouldn’t be like, “What this is is ambiguous.”

Sam Rosen 20 Dec 2024 6:47 UTC
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I just say, “parable of the purple creatures” when I talk to friends, who I have talked about this with before and understand the concept.

It came up yesterday for me when I was talking to a friend and he was like, “If God made some rules that he would punish us for not following, but the rules weren’t intrinsically motivating, should we call that moral realism?” And I was like parable of the purple creatures bro.

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Sam Rosen 17 Dec 2024 1:57 UTC
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Parable of the Purple Creatures
Some Medieval townsfolk thought witches were poisoning their wells. Witches, of course, are people—often ugly—who are in league with Satan, can do magic, and have an affinity for broomsticks. These villagers wanted to catch the witches so they could punish them. Everyone in the town felt that witches should be punished. So they set up a commission to investigate the matter.
Well, it turned out little purple alien creatures were poisoning their wells.
They *weren’t* human.
They *couldn’t* do magic.
They *weren’t* in league with Satan.
But they *did* cackle.
They *did* kind of look like witches.
They *did* constantly carry around broomsticks.
And they *did* poison wells.
The commission then split into two factions.
Faction one: These purple creatures are what we should mean by the term “witches.”
Their argument: “We used to think ‘stars’ were holes in the firmament, but now we know they are massive fusion reactions many light years away. We revised our star concept, so why can’t we revise our witch concept? If we continue using the witch concept, none of our laws have to change!”
Faction two: Witches don’t exist. We need a new word for purple-creatures.
Their argument: “A huge component of our witch concept is that they are humans and can do magic. These creatures are so different from our traditional conception of witches that we should accept that witches don’t exist and we should start calling these things something else. Also, it likely cause confusion because many people will think these things can do magic.”
Now, there is no epistemic reason why you should side with one faction over the other. You just sort of have to ask yourself which does more damage to your intuitions. You have to ask yourself about the political and pragmatic effects of supporting faction 1 or faction 2.
So much of philosophy is just deciding whether to call purple creatures witches or not.
So let me flesh that out.
1) People often think knowledge means absolute certainty.
But then we found out we don’t have absolute certainty about most things. We can revise our knowledge concept to not require absolute certainty *or* we can say don’t know much of anything.
2) People often think free will means we can counteract the laws of physics.
Then we found out we can’t do that. We can now either say we don’t have free will *or* we can revise our concept and say free will is just something like our capacity to evaluate counterfactuals and pick outcomes we like.
3) Many people think God exists and wrote the Bible.
Suppose we learned that the entire universe was conscious, but that this consciousness isn’t kind, doesn’t care about us, and didn’t write the Bible. We can either say that universal consciousness is God, *or* we can say God doesn’t exist.
See how this works? We have some intuition about a concept that refers to something in the world. Then we look in the world and find there is nothing that our concept exactly neatly maps onto, but there are nearby things that are real that we could be referring to. We then have a choice to revise our concept or abandon our concept.
There is no fact of the matter about this! At the end of the day we have to just ask ourselves what are the pragmatic benefits of going one way or the other. Different conceptual schemes have different pragmatic benefits: Some are easier to understand. Some are more liked by many people. Some require us to not change our laws and norms. Some have nice clarity. Some allow us to elegantly see parallels in disparate domains.
I wish thinkers would take this to heart when in a Purple Creatures scenarios. I wish they would notice that there is no fact of the matter whether we should call these things witches or not. And instead we should just be weighing the pragmatic pros and cons in such situations.