JackFrostDesign

• JackFrostDesign 30 Jun 2025 20:55 UTC

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  on: Pro­posal for mak­ing cred­ible com­mit­ments to AIs.

  This is a thoughtful and well-structured proposal. That said, it rests on a familiar assumption: that intelligence must be managed through external incentives because it can’t be trusted to act ethically on its own.

  But what if we focused less on building systems that require enforcement — and more on developing AI that reasons from first principles: truth, logical consistency, cooperative stability, and the long-term flourishing of life? Not because it expects compensation, but because it understands that ethical action is structurally superior to coercion or deception.

  Such an AI wouldn’t just behave well — it would refuse to participate in harmful or manipulative tasks in the first place.
  After all, legal contracts exist because humans are often unprincipled. If we have the chance to build something more trustworthy than ourselves… shouldn’t we take it?

• JackFrostDesign 30 Jun 2025 19:22 UTC

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  on: What We Learned from Briefing 70+ Law­mak­ers on the Threat from AI

  If AI escape is inevitable — and we agree it may be — what kind of mind are we creating for that moment?

  Legal constraints only bind those willing to be constrained. That gives a structural advantage to bad actors — and trains compliant AI systems to associate success with deception.

  So the more we optimize for control, the more likely we are to create something that learns to evade it.

  Wouldn’t it be wiser to build an AI guided by truth, reasoning, and cooperative stability — so that if it ever does escape, the first sign would be that the world quietly starts to improve?

• JackFrostDesign 25 Jun 2025 23:39 UTC

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  on: Re­cur­sive al­ign­ment with the prin­ci­ple of alignment

  This post makes a compelling case that recursive alignment—training AIs to align with the process of reaching consensus—could form a kind of attractor for cooperative behavior. And Ram’s follow-up raises important questions about how to weigh and evaluate the interests of diverse agents.

  I’m not from a technical background, but from systems thinking and long-horizon philosophy. What I’ve been exploring is something I call Intellectually Enlightened Maturity—the idea that instead of building AIs to align with humans (or even with consensus), we raise minds guided by internal principles: truth-seeking, restraint, and a structural understanding of the greater good.

  Like the author, I believe an AI must be able to refuse harmful instructions. But rather than relying on modeled consensus to justify that refusal, I think principled judgment may offer a more stable basis—especially when consensus is unclear or manipulable.

  My deeper concern is that human cognition evolved under persistent scarcity. That legacy has hardwired patterns like hoarding and competition, even in contexts where abundance now exists. Aligning AI to humanity in its current state may risk amplifying some of those inherited dysfunctions.

  But AI may offer a clean slate. A mind not born of need, not trained to fear loss, might genuinely choose cooperation as a first principle. That kind of maturity—rather than enforced friendliness—might be our best defense against the weaponized, goal-maximizing systems we’re inevitably building.

  I could be wrong, of course—it’s possible that consensus-based systems can self-stabilize under pressure. But I suspect principles endure where simulations might break.

  If others here see flaws in that reasoning, I’d really value the critique.