If we assume that the time wasted writing multiple grants outweighs the benefits of stiffer competition (stimulating creativity or harder work?), there are several ways success rates could be increased: more total funding, smaller grants, limiting grants/researcher, or fewer researchers. One reason we have so many researchers is that overhead payments to universities exceed the marginal cost of doing more research. So they keep hiring more researchers, independent of teaching needs.
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Post and comments seem useful for students and teachers, but I was hoping for hints or links for teams of motivated adults. The teams I’ve been on mostly produce scientific publications (original research or reviews). Some observations: 1) work doesn’t need to be divided equally, so long as each team member makes an essential contribution, but major contributors need to get more credit; 2) “you do most of the work and we share credit” can work if the one doing most of the work is essentially an apprentice (e.g., a grad student or postdoc) -- it’s understood what the roles were—but maybe not for two people with similar status; 3) two (or maybe three) people can brainstorm effectively without needing much structure; 4) big teams are tricky; if one or two people do most of the work with small contributions from many others (each getting a little credit), that seems to work OK. But I would have no idea how to organize a project that took major effort from more than 3-4 people; 5) email works OK, especially with collabators many time zones away; I always wonder about shared-screen-plus-audio tools, though.
Randomly grouping voters into districts might be worth considering. With geographic districts, incompetent and corrupt incumbents get reelected by bringing their district more than its share of national resources or by playing to regional prejudices (religion, etc.). If those options were off the table, character and competence might win more often.
If I wanted to be revived, I’d hide a bunch of gold and tattoo a note to that effect on my chest before being frozen.
I’d rather have a motivated group that’s poorly organized than a well-organized bunch of goof-offs. Given motivation, though, I wonder whether some forms of organization (especially voluntary organization) work better than others.
I’m particularly interested in situations where there’s a significant opportunity cost to collaboration, that is, where any time participants spend on collaborative project X comes at the expense of time they would otherwise spend on worthwhile project Y. How can we get things done together while wasting as little of each others’ time as possible?
One reason we punish criminals is to deter private revenge, which tends to escalate into long-lasting feuds. This function isn’t incompatible with rehabilitation in prison, though, teaching people life skills that will keep them out of trouble after release.
Yes, preempt is better.
I agree that we should imprison as few people as possible.
My point was that having murders punished by the state rather than by the victim’s families leads to fewer people in prison. If we don’t jail Bob for killing Ken, then Ken’s brother kills Bob, so then Bob’s brother kills Ken’s son, and so on. At least, that’s what tends to happen in societies without effective law enforcement.
Yes, literal feuds. Cycles of tit-for-tat revenge that involve violence or are likely to escalate to violence unless the injured party (or their surviving relatives) perceive that “justice has been done” through state-imposed punishment. I lived in West Virginia, which such feuds were common before effective law enforcement was substituted for private revenge.
This is clearly not an argument for punishment in the case of victimless “crimes” or offenses unlikely to provoke escalating retaliation.
We do use mercenaries: http://www.newsweek.com/2010/08/10/mercenaries-in-iraq-to-take-over-soldiers-jobs.html
But there might be cheaper options. If we paid Afghan girls $10/day to go to school, would the Taliban collapse?
We could be a little more subtle. Start by offering jobs to do something the Taliban wouldn’t consider threatening—Mechanical Turk work-from-home stuff not requiring literacy, via some kind of specialized radio or satellite link with no access to porn or feminism or anything the Taliban would object to. Every family wants one of those terminals and they can make twice as much money if the girls work (from home) too. Gradually offer higher pay for higher skill levels, starting with nonthreatening stuff like arithmetic but escalating to translating the Koran and then to tasks that would involve reading a wide variety of secular material, analyzing political and judicial systems of different countries (still maybe disguised as a translating job)…
I see how the first part of my post could be read as “we need to motivate girls to go to school”, which wasn’t my intent. More a matter of motivating tradition-bound parents to see educated girls as a major source of income. But I understand that going to school can be risky in Taliban-dominated areas, which is why the second part of my post was all home-based and therefore hard for the Taliban to detect. Even so, I agree that any obvious link to the US government could be a problem.
A “church-like organization that has local congregations and meets weekly to listen to talks on rationality, the latest scientific discoveries, lectures on philosophy, the state of the world, etc.”?
Sounds like a Unitarian fellowship, at least the ones I know. Some may be closer to their Protestant roots, though. Of course, they also have talks on irrationality (“spirituality”) and, while atheists and other rationalists are certainly welcome, aggressive promotion of any particular world-view is discouraged.
If you park near the St. Paul campus, there’s a free shuttle bus that stops across the street from Coffman. http://www1.umn.edu/pts/bus/connectors.html
I’m somewhat interested, but have plans already.
Does this have implications for the risks associated with AI? Tao is a lot smarter than we are, but he doesn’t seem to be plotting to harvest us for our phosphorus, or anything.
This example and others mentioned also suggest that interactions among intelligent agents may be at least as important as intelligence per se. If we can learn to work together more effectively, I think we’ll be able to out-think computers for a long time (where “a long time” is defined as long enough for over-population, climate change, nuclear war, etc. to be serious risks).
That may be a faster route to AI. But my point was that making an AI that’s smarter than the combined intelligence of humans will be much harder (even for an AI that’s already fairly smart and well-endowed with resources) than making one that’s smarter than an individual human. That moves this risk even further into the future. I’m more worried about the many risks that are more imminent.
Would the first AI want more AI’s around? Wouldn’t it compete more with AI’s than with humans for resources? Or do you assume that humans, having made an AI smarter than an individual human, would work to network AI’s into something even smarter?
Either way, the scaling issue is interesting. I would expect the gain from networking AI’s to differ from the gain from networking humans, but I’m not sure which would work better. Differences among individual humans are a potential source of conflict, but can also make the whole greater than the sum of the parts. I wouldn’t expect complementarity among a bunch of identical AI’s. Generating useful differences would be an interesting problem.
I agree with your main points, but it’s worth noting that corporations and governments don’t really have goals—people who control them have goals. Corporations are supposed to maximize shareholder value, but their actual behavior reflects the personal goals of executives, major shareholders, etc. See, for example, “Dividends and Expropriation” Am Econ Rev 91:54-78. So one key question is how to align the interests of those who actually control corporations and governments with those they are supposed to represent.
Whatever past trends were, the rate of progress must slow as we approach physical limits. For example, there must be some minimum size for a reliable resistor. So even if we accept the inevitability of certain past trends, extrapolation is risky.
Once we’ve used most of the oil (or phosphate, for which there’s no substitute), past trends driven by culture, technology, or economics won’t continue. In agriculture, best-farmer yields haven’t increased much since 1980, although averages go up as they buy their neighbors’ land. (My recent book on Darwinian Agriculture discusses some prospects for improvement, but still within limits.) Cheap computer power may substitute for previous forms of education, entertainment, and travel, but not for food. I doubt that enough people will upload their brains to make a difference.
Yes, we should start with the low-hanging fruit. For example, nutrients in human waste are a small fraction of what’s in animal waste, and the latter should be easier to capture. Even so, much of the manure still gets applied at pollution-causing rates near barns and feedlots, rather than paying the cost of transport to where it is most needed.
But your point about food availability and social stability is more important. Recycling urine seems like a good idea. But a society that needs to recycle urine will be a society where many people are spending most of their income on food and others are going hungry, as was the case for the societies mentioned above.
As an evolutionary biologist with an interest in practical applications to agriculture and to human longevity, I think your emphasis on the slow pace of evolution is misplaced. It took most of life’s 3.85 billion year history to evolve multicellularity, but that slowness seems to mainly reflect lack of selection for multicellularity over most of that period. With strong selection, primitive multicellularity can evolve quickly under lab conditions ( Boraas,M.E. 1998 “Phagotrophy by a flagellate selects for colonial prey: A possible origin of multicellularity” and current work in my lab).
Your point about individual vs. group selection is correct and important, though. Individual selection, like free-market competition, is an effective way of making certain kinds of improvements. But some form of group selection (the chicken example, or small-plot trials in plant breeding) is often key to improvements missed by individual-based natural selection. See my 2003 review article and forthcoming book on Darwinian Agriculture.