I think my own issues with this post is that just ignoring a thought or feeling, just saying “no you’re wrong” seems like a surefire way to damage your own psyche, to stiffle part of yourself by labelling it or just treating it as distant from yourself.
I don’t have OCD and it’s good that the author, or other people are finding solutions, and maybe for so invasive a thought you actually need to discard it or not-argue-with-it or I don’t know. But I’ve found that this attitude, for me and others at mild-anxiety levels, is often counterproductive in the sense that it is ignoring part of my needs and part of things alive in me.
The general way I’ve handled transforming feelings is more like, through being able to connect with it and hear it out. I guess my general approach to panic meditation is more like staying with the feeling while it rises inside me, and focusing on it, resonating with it until it can disolve. Understanding its chain of cause and effects clearly enough that I can replicate it and feel its move.
For very strong feelings, it does take a lot of back and forth this way, of connecting to it slowly, then retreating, and then again connecting to it. But the general shape of what it looks like is not saying “No that’s wrong” or “I label you”. It’s more like, hearing out the thought without attachment. Like if someone tells me the sky is red, that’s something that I can hear out without debating, and without conflating with what I myself think. That’s kind of how I’m seeing it, there’s this part of me that think something, and I don’t need to evaluate the correctness of it to hear it out and connect with it, I can just hear it.
Again, it may very well be that OCD is radically different, and this doesn’t work at all for it, I wouldn’t know. What I’m pushing back on is this general ethos of controlling your own thoughts and feelings as well as ignoring them as a more general stance that I’ve seen not only in this post, where to me this is kind of generous in terms of self-modification and ignoring part of yourself.
Right.
I have no issues with your post at all in the context of “this is the way I’m handling ocd”. It’s just that people are bound to generalize out of it, and this connect to a general ethos I’ve often seen in lesswrong, for instance metacognitive therapy is one example of this more general pattern.
I also think your own phrasing in your post seems not very restricted to ocd specifically, and I wanted to reflect some pushback against the takeaway some people may have about using it outside of ocd context.
Thanks a lot for your post, the description of what it feels like inside to have it is very interesting and I learned a lot about how it works