Led by Snape? I relatively certain that Snape engineered this entire scenario from the get-go to cause the situation to escalate to the point that the school would have to crack down hard on bullying. Snape just arranged it in such a way that he could get what he wanted and still come off looking like the bad guy. Snape is, in fact, fanatically anti-bullying.
Good point. I have no idea what Snape is thinking (to be honest I glaze over at Snape parts). I guess he is anti-bullying except when done by people he likes to people he doesn’t like?
I’m probably missing an tag, but consider the evidence.
Dumbledore told Harry that Quirrell intervened so Daphne could take down Astorga
As I understand it, all the bullies have been under Snape’s tutelage, their entire Hogwarts careers,
with the Slytherin bullies having had him as head of house.
Prof. Sprout was warned off after dealing with Slytherin bullies on Harry’s first day
Quirrell’s “they have tolerated worse in their hallways” and give a finger from my wand hand, suggest that bullying has been tolerated for a long time.
What are Snape’s adult motives and goals?
How much of a panopticon is Hogwarts or House Slytherin there?
When he tasked 7th-year Rianne Felthorne, presumably with sending the message back via Bullstrode,
she lost count of the charms cast and didn’t show recognition of them. Harry would have recognized them from
Bester and Quirrell.
Hogwarts is a centre of power, perhaps funds his Potions research and precautions againts Voldemort’s return.
Is conditioning Hogwarts students to fear him defending his future position or building a power base.
Are Dumbledore & Snape treating Quirrell as a bird in the hand, under close observation—Bellatrix’s escape is still
under investigation after all.
Who set up the ambush outside the library? Snape or Quirrell? 2PM is too early for Harry’s Time-Turner unless the shield was circumvented. Was testing for The cloak of Invisibility a hint from Snape?
My pet theory is that every display of anger Snape ever makes in MOR is part of his act. In fact, the only two genuine displays of emotions we’ve seen have been his private smile after chewing out Jaime Astorga and his involuntary smile when Harry accused Dumbledore of being a Nazgul. (Snape is the secret Xanatos behind Self Actualization, which is why both Dumbledore and Quirrel keep acting surprised when people assume they’re involved.)
Everything actually went according to his plan, except, possibly, being revealed from his Disillusionment as he shadowed the SPHEW members to the ambush. And he DID crack down on all the bullying, he threatened the Slytherins with horrors in private before he publicly punished Hermione.
This is a masterstroke on his part because it removes all incentive the Slytherins and bullies at large might have to seek vengeance against Hermione; she’s already being punished severely. The bullies are shamed and fearful, and the one who shamed them is cowed as well. Equilibrium is restored. Hermione pays the price, but it is a fair price, as far as Snape is concerned.
Snape’s original plan was to let the bullies beat the crap out of the girls, then Dumbledore would be forced to confront the issue directly. Quirrel may have even been the one who revealed Snape’s invisibility just to embarrass him.
Thanks, that makes sense. Personally, I’d be very suspicious of any plan that required Dumbledore to react reasonably, but Snape trusts D more than I do. (And I always assumed, once his involvement became clear, that Quirrel was the one who revealed Snape.)
Led by Snape? I relatively certain that Snape engineered this entire scenario from the get-go to cause the situation to escalate to the point that the school would have to crack down hard on bullying. Snape just arranged it in such a way that he could get what he wanted and still come off looking like the bad guy. Snape is, in fact, fanatically anti-bullying.
Good point. I have no idea what Snape is thinking (to be honest I glaze over at Snape parts). I guess he is anti-bullying except when done by people he likes to people he doesn’t like?
I’m probably missing an tag, but consider the evidence.
Dumbledore told Harry that Quirrell intervened so Daphne could take down Astorga
As I understand it, all the bullies have been under Snape’s tutelage, their entire Hogwarts careers, with the Slytherin bullies having had him as head of house.
Prof. Sprout was warned off after dealing with Slytherin bullies on Harry’s first day
Quirrell’s “they have tolerated worse in their hallways” and give a finger from my wand hand, suggest that bullying has been tolerated for a long time.
What are Snape’s adult motives and goals? How much of a panopticon is Hogwarts or House Slytherin there? When he tasked 7th-year Rianne Felthorne, presumably with sending the message back via Bullstrode, she lost count of the charms cast and didn’t show recognition of them. Harry would have recognized them from Bester and Quirrell. Hogwarts is a centre of power, perhaps funds his Potions research and precautions againts Voldemort’s return. Is conditioning Hogwarts students to fear him defending his future position or building a power base.
Are Dumbledore & Snape treating Quirrell as a bird in the hand, under close observation—Bellatrix’s escape is still under investigation after all. Who set up the ambush outside the library? Snape or Quirrell? 2PM is too early for Harry’s Time-Turner unless the shield was circumvented. Was testing for The cloak of Invisibility a hint from Snape?
That’s how I’d characterise his attitude in canon. ETA: This includes, in particular, his own bullying of students.
But wasn’t the point of the chapter’s end that didn’t crack down on the bullying, but just on SPHEW?
I don’t know what Snape gained by all the escalation he engineered.
My pet theory is that every display of anger Snape ever makes in MOR is part of his act. In fact, the only two genuine displays of emotions we’ve seen have been his private smile after chewing out Jaime Astorga and his involuntary smile when Harry accused Dumbledore of being a Nazgul. (Snape is the secret Xanatos behind Self Actualization, which is why both Dumbledore and Quirrel keep acting surprised when people assume they’re involved.)
Everything actually went according to his plan, except, possibly, being revealed from his Disillusionment as he shadowed the SPHEW members to the ambush. And he DID crack down on all the bullying, he threatened the Slytherins with horrors in private before he publicly punished Hermione.
This is a masterstroke on his part because it removes all incentive the Slytherins and bullies at large might have to seek vengeance against Hermione; she’s already being punished severely. The bullies are shamed and fearful, and the one who shamed them is cowed as well. Equilibrium is restored. Hermione pays the price, but it is a fair price, as far as Snape is concerned.
It was Snape that Harry called a Nazgul.
In your theory, what was Snape’s original plan with the 44 bullies before Quirrell interfered at Harry’s request?
Snape’s original plan was to let the bullies beat the crap out of the girls, then Dumbledore would be forced to confront the issue directly. Quirrel may have even been the one who revealed Snape’s invisibility just to embarrass him.
Thanks, that makes sense. Personally, I’d be very suspicious of any plan that required Dumbledore to react reasonably, but Snape trusts D more than I do. (And I always assumed, once his involvement became clear, that Quirrel was the one who revealed Snape.)