I feel this way about animal rights. Look up footage from factory farms. Look up the statistics about how many animals are factory farmed. Look up the science on animal sentience. Look up how to eat a healthy diet without animal products. I won’t get into the arguments beyond that but we’re so terrible to animals that I think we should not do any animal agriculture at all, and I took the liberation pledge, so I don’t eat at tables where people are eating animal products.
This pledge vaguely reminds me of the GNU GPL, a license that developers put on their open-source software if they prefer their software, and all its derivatives, doesn’t “eat at tables” (get distributed) within non-open-source software. So it’s trying to spread open-source software as much as possible, which seems like a goal similar to the abolishing all IP law mentioned by @Breck Yunits in a sibling comment.
I wonder how universal and effective this “viral” approach to spreading unconventional norms is.
It’s a good question, and it reminds me of a point from a recent veritasium video, where in networks of prisoners dilemna’s you can get really good results if cooperators (tit-for-tat ish) also have a rule of “cutting contact” with defectors who defect too often. It’s been a while since I watched the video, and I haven’t really thought deeply about it’s implications, and networks of bots playing prisoners dilemna games are very different from human social networks, so take this comment with a nice helping of salt. I’ll edit this comment with the video link if I find it
edit: according to the liberation pledge site, https://www.theliberationpledge.com/, it’s also the strategy used by the campaign to end foot binding in china. Whether that’s actually true, or they made it up, or distorted the reality, or what, I have no idea. They don’t cite sources on it and I haven’t bothered to look it up.
It does seem to be a strategy that depends on you having something others want. In the prisoners dilemna case, your cooperation. In the foot binding case, a daughter or son to marry. In the gpl case, high quality software. In the liberation pledge case, good company (in my experience, I’m not a very social person anyways nor am I the life of the party, so it’s primarily had an impact on my family, who I’m pretty sure eat way more vegan food than they would if I didn’t have such a strict approach).
I feel this way about animal rights. Look up footage from factory farms. Look up the statistics about how many animals are factory farmed. Look up the science on animal sentience. Look up how to eat a healthy diet without animal products. I won’t get into the arguments beyond that but we’re so terrible to animals that I think we should not do any animal agriculture at all, and I took the liberation pledge, so I don’t eat at tables where people are eating animal products.
This pledge vaguely reminds me of the GNU GPL, a license that developers put on their open-source software if they prefer their software, and all its derivatives, doesn’t “eat at tables” (get distributed) within non-open-source software. So it’s trying to spread open-source software as much as possible, which seems like a goal similar to the abolishing all IP law mentioned by @Breck Yunits in a sibling comment.
I wonder how universal and effective this “viral” approach to spreading unconventional norms is.
It’s a good question, and it reminds me of a point from a recent veritasium video, where in networks of prisoners dilemna’s you can get really good results if cooperators (tit-for-tat ish) also have a rule of “cutting contact” with defectors who defect too often. It’s been a while since I watched the video, and I haven’t really thought deeply about it’s implications, and networks of bots playing prisoners dilemna games are very different from human social networks, so take this comment with a nice helping of salt. I’ll edit this comment with the video link if I find it
edit: around 24 minutes in to here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYlon2tvywA
edit: according to the liberation pledge site, https://www.theliberationpledge.com/, it’s also the strategy used by the campaign to end foot binding in china. Whether that’s actually true, or they made it up, or distorted the reality, or what, I have no idea. They don’t cite sources on it and I haven’t bothered to look it up.
It does seem to be a strategy that depends on you having something others want. In the prisoners dilemna case, your cooperation. In the foot binding case, a daughter or son to marry. In the gpl case, high quality software. In the liberation pledge case, good company (in my experience, I’m not a very social person anyways nor am I the life of the party, so it’s primarily had an impact on my family, who I’m pretty sure eat way more vegan food than they would if I didn’t have such a strict approach).