Not sure what Benquo would say, but I think a natural question when a community of people fails at its goal after ~10 years, is to ask why it failed and what could’ve been done differently. It’s a good opportunity to learn, and it’s a good incentive to expect to do it so that you make sensible choices during the initial period that you’re doing the work (to expect to have to justify them if you fail).
I think that the CFAR one is more natural, because it seems to me that MIRI set itself a great scientific challenge with an externally imposed deadline, whereas CFAR did not have the external deadline on developing an art of rationality (which is also a very difficult problem). So it’s more naturally a place where the locus of control was within yourself, and a postmortem will be able to be accurate.
(I’m interested in this topic because I have myself considered trying to put together a public retro on the past ten years of safe-the-world efforts from this scene.)
Not sure what Benquo would say, but I think a natural question when a community of people fails at its goal after ~10 years, is to ask why it failed and what could’ve been done differently. It’s a good opportunity to learn, and it’s a good incentive to expect to do it so that you make sensible choices during the initial period that you’re doing the work (to expect to have to justify them if you fail).
I think that the CFAR one is more natural, because it seems to me that MIRI set itself a great scientific challenge with an externally imposed deadline, whereas CFAR did not have the external deadline on developing an art of rationality (which is also a very difficult problem). So it’s more naturally a place where the locus of control was within yourself, and a postmortem will be able to be accurate.
(I’m interested in this topic because I have myself considered trying to put together a public retro on the past ten years of safe-the-world efforts from this scene.)