“Trigger the audience into figuring out what went wrong with MIRI’s collective past thinking and decision-making” would be a strange purpose from a post written by the founder of MIRI, its key decision-maker, and a long-time proponent of secrecy in how the organization should relate to outsiders (or even how members inside the organization should relate to other members of MIRI).
Not disagreeing with your point, just want to add the datapoint that for me it did lead me to something like “giving up faith in” MIRI. I no longer believed that they were working on a plan for getting the problem solved, and so I resigned myself to the world where I had to take responsibility for the problem getting solved.
Flagging that the “so I resigned myself to the world where I had to take responsibility” part makes me think you’ve updated on the object-level question of whether MIRI is succeeding, but not the meta-level question of what mechanistically went wrong at MIRI.
(I realized after writing this that maybe this type of comment won’t be very productive coming from me in particular, since we’ve had somewhat adversarial interactions lately. But I decided that it was better to just note that metacognition explicitly rather than not post a comment I otherwise would have posted.)
“Trigger the audience into figuring out what went wrong with MIRI’s collective past thinking and decision-making” would be a strange purpose from a post written by the founder of MIRI, its key decision-maker, and a long-time proponent of secrecy in how the organization should relate to outsiders (or even how members inside the organization should relate to other members of MIRI).
Not disagreeing with your point, just want to add the datapoint that for me it did lead me to something like “giving up faith in” MIRI. I no longer believed that they were working on a plan for getting the problem solved, and so I resigned myself to the world where I had to take responsibility for the problem getting solved.
Flagging that the “so I resigned myself to the world where I had to take responsibility” part makes me think you’ve updated on the object-level question of whether MIRI is succeeding, but not the meta-level question of what mechanistically went wrong at MIRI.
(I realized after writing this that maybe this type of comment won’t be very productive coming from me in particular, since we’ve had somewhat adversarial interactions lately. But I decided that it was better to just note that metacognition explicitly rather than not post a comment I otherwise would have posted.)