I tried to make the country club a version of the Catholic church that was nicer in every way. Instead of claiming you will be tortured forever if you do those things (and don’t go to confession), the country club asks you to leave.
Claiming you might get tortured forever while not doing anything materially to make sure this actually happens doesn’t seem as harsh to me as asking someone to leave a club.
Instead of claiming you will be tortured forever if you do those things (and don’t go to confession), the country club asks you to leave.
Well, but the Catholic church doesn’t implement the torture, it just tells you about it. The telling-about-it is itself a form of forceful persuasion in the right contexts (i.e. to young children), but in general it’s still roughly comparable to being denied access to the country club.
I tried to make the country club a version of the Catholic church that was nicer in every way. Instead of claiming you will be tortured forever if you do those things (and don’t go to confession), the country club asks you to leave.
Claiming you might get tortured forever while not doing anything materially to make sure this actually happens doesn’t seem as harsh to me as asking someone to leave a club.
I mean unless one resorts to magical thinking.
Well, but the Catholic church doesn’t implement the torture, it just tells you about it. The telling-about-it is itself a form of forceful persuasion in the right contexts (i.e. to young children), but in general it’s still roughly comparable to being denied access to the country club.