I think Nate and Eliezer want a huge paradigm shift (though they don’t think it’s likely; it’s not like they’re optimistic) and that they think things are extremely challenging with the status quo. I think they agree there might not be a great alternative, they only gesture at this issue to show why alignment is tricky. Tbc I am only trying to present my understanding of their arguments. I might not be understanding them well.
I think Nate and Eliezer want a huge paradigm shift (though they don’t think it’s likely; it’s not like they’re optimistic) and that they think things are extremely challenging with the status quo. I think they agree there might not be a great alternative, they only gesture at this issue to show why alignment is tricky. Tbc I am only trying to present my understanding of their arguments. I might not be understanding them well.