Like any other ideologue, Harris has a vision of what the social order should be like and how people should live their lives, and he wishes to push it onto those he disagrees with.
You could argue against “pushing” the CEV “ideology” on people on the same grounds, couldn’t you?
A coherent vision for the human race that happens to be truly the best thing is something you will feel is your duty to put into action. In fact, it would be your duty.
I suspect that Vladimir doesn’t like Harris because his examples make him a conventional moderate liberal.
Harris is trying to prove that SCIENCE! implies that we all must be conventional moderate liberals.
The first part of that sentence (the “SCIENCE” part) is kind of shoddy. So what we’re left with is “We all must be conventional moderate liberals.” As a conventional moderate liberal, I AM BEHIND THIS ALL THE WAY.
Ignoring the present problems with CEV, which are still deep and insufficiently understood to give any final judgment on that project, the relevant point is that CEV is supposed to solve the problem of existential threat of non-friendly AI, not to achieve improvements on the present human condition. In other words, it’s an attempt to figure out how to ensure that an AI, if implemented, won’t turn us into dog food, not a pseudoscientific recipe for building utopia here and now (which would be just as insane as all such previous ideas).
Assuming an AI will be implemented at some point, CEV will be a preferable alternative to being turned into dog food, and—as a wild speculation—in the hands of a superintelligence, its results might perhaps not even be that bad by other standards. But all this is extremely far-fetched in any case.
You could argue against “pushing” the CEV “ideology” on people on the same grounds, couldn’t you?
That was exactly my point.
A coherent vision for the human race that happens to be truly the best thing is something you will feel is your duty to put into action. In fact, it would be your duty.
I suspect that Vladimir doesn’t like Harris because his examples make him a conventional moderate liberal.
Harris is trying to prove that SCIENCE! implies that we all must be conventional moderate liberals. The first part of that sentence (the “SCIENCE” part) is kind of shoddy. So what we’re left with is “We all must be conventional moderate liberals.” As a conventional moderate liberal, I AM BEHIND THIS ALL THE WAY.
Ignoring the present problems with CEV, which are still deep and insufficiently understood to give any final judgment on that project, the relevant point is that CEV is supposed to solve the problem of existential threat of non-friendly AI, not to achieve improvements on the present human condition. In other words, it’s an attempt to figure out how to ensure that an AI, if implemented, won’t turn us into dog food, not a pseudoscientific recipe for building utopia here and now (which would be just as insane as all such previous ideas).
Assuming an AI will be implemented at some point, CEV will be a preferable alternative to being turned into dog food, and—as a wild speculation—in the hands of a superintelligence, its results might perhaps not even be that bad by other standards. But all this is extremely far-fetched in any case.
what’s your problem with utopia? don’t you like nice things?