Whoa. What? I notice that I am confused. Requesting additional information.
Most of the time, if I read something like that, I’d assume it was merely false—empty posturing from someone who didn’t understand the implications of what they were writing. In this case, though… everything else I’ve seen you write is coherent and precise. I’m inclined to believe your words literally, in which case either A) I’m missing some sort of context or qualifiers or B) you really ought to see a therapist or something.
Do you mean you’re not averse to death decades from now? Does that feel different from the possibility of getting hit by a bus next week?
(Only tangentially related, but I’m curious: what’s your order of magnitude probability estimate that cryonics would actually work?)
No, I’m sorry, but there are simply many atheists who really aren’t that scared of non-existence. We don’t seek it out, we do prefer continuation of our lives and its many joys, but dying doesn’t scare the hell out of us either.
This, in me at least, has nothing to do with depression or anything that requires therapy. I’m not suicidal in the least; even though I’d be scared of being trapped in an SF-style dystopia that didn’t allow me to so suicide.
“I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.”
― Mark Twain
No, I’m sorry, but there are simply many atheists who really aren’t that scared of non-existence.
The difference being that those are biased, whereas lukeprog would be expected to see through once the true rejection was addressed, which it has been.
I assume. I am not any of the participants in this conversation.
Sorry, I just meant that I seem to be less averse to death than other people. I’d be very sad to die, and not have the chance to achieve my goals, but I’m not as terrified as death as many people seem to be. I’ve clarified the original comment.
Whoa. What? I notice that I am confused. Requesting additional information.
Most of the time, if I read something like that, I’d assume it was merely false—empty posturing from someone who didn’t understand the implications of what they were writing. In this case, though… everything else I’ve seen you write is coherent and precise. I’m inclined to believe your words literally, in which case either A) I’m missing some sort of context or qualifiers or B) you really ought to see a therapist or something.
Do you mean you’re not averse to death decades from now? Does that feel different from the possibility of getting hit by a bus next week?
(Only tangentially related, but I’m curious: what’s your order of magnitude probability estimate that cryonics would actually work?)
No, I’m sorry, but there are simply many atheists who really aren’t that scared of non-existence. We don’t seek it out, we do prefer continuation of our lives and its many joys, but dying doesn’t scare the hell out of us either.
This, in me at least, has nothing to do with depression or anything that requires therapy. I’m not suicidal in the least; even though I’d be scared of being trapped in an SF-style dystopia that didn’t allow me to so suicide.
What’s that quote that says something to the nature of “I didn’t exist for billions of years before I was born, and it didn’t bother me one bit” ?
“I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.” ― Mark Twain
The difference being that those are biased, whereas lukeprog would be expected to see through once the true rejection was addressed, which it has been.
I assume. I am not any of the participants in this conversation.
Sorry, I just meant that I seem to be less averse to death than other people. I’d be very sad to die, and not have the chance to achieve my goals, but I’m not as terrified as death as many people seem to be. I’ve clarified the original comment.