The “protecting family from trauma” theory does not explain why societies hung the bodies of criminals and traitors in public as gruesome reminders of how disgusting and unacceptable their behavior was. A “decent burial” is likewise a social signal of reward for honorable conduct, e.g. in a battlefield.
The “protecting family from trauma” theory does not explain why societies hung the bodies of criminals and traitors in public as gruesome reminders of how disgusting and unacceptable their behavior was.
If you see the body of a criminal hung by a roadside, you will be deterred from embarking on a life of crime yourself, if you still have some social attachments, such as a family; more so than if you see that criminal being given a decent trial, execution and burial.
On the other hand, choosing to be a criminal or a traitor is already choosing a low-status social position: it’s legitimate to be skeptical of the supposed power of the mere status threat of having your body mangled, compared to the very real risk of being hunted down and killed which inheres to the social position of criminal in the first place.
This is one more instance where I suspect status of being used as a fake explanation.
The status threat is in addition to being killed. In other words, once the society has already exercised the option of killing you they would also attempt to destroy your credibility and dehumanize you by publicly displaying your rotting carcass.
This is obviously supposed to be an additional deterrent above and beyond being killed. It makes a huge amount of sense that this would be because you can’t rationalize it as easily by thinking “hey even if I’m caught and killed at least I’ll be remembered as a pretty cool guy”. It makes no sense in the context of the tender feelings of family and friends of the criminal. Also, I’d be willing to bet the criminals most likely to suffer such a fate are high-status ones whose exploits are most legendary—the revolutionaries and traitors, more than common criminals.
Another obvious reason to think corpse treatment is a status symbol is the amount of care given to the bodies of kings and emperors, and as I’ve mentioned, fallen warriors. It’s like the reason people buy bigger houses. On the surface, yes it provides a little more comfort for their family. But when it comes down to it, they do it primarily to signal their status.
The status threat is in addition to being killed. In other words, once the society has already exercised the option of killing you they would also attempt to destroy your credibility and dehumanize you by publicly displaying your rotting carcass.
This is obviously supposed to be an additional deterrent above and beyond being killed. It makes a huge amount of sense that this would be because you can’t rationalize it as easily by thinking “hey even if I’m caught and killed at least I’ll be remembered as a pretty cool guy”. It makes no sense in the context of the tender feelings of family and friends of the criminal. Also, I’d be willing to bet the criminals most likely to suffer such a fate are high-status ones whose exploits are most legendary—the revolutionaries and traitors, more than common criminals.
Another obvious reason to think corpse treatment is a status symbol is the amount of care given to the bodies of kings and emperors, and as I’ve mentioned, fallen warriors. It’s like the reason people buy bigger houses. On the surface, yes it provides a little more comfort for their family. But when it comes down to it, they do it primarily to signal their status.
Societies previously “hung the bodies of criminals and traitors in public”—so those watching them being hanged were deterred from committing similar crimes and suffering the same fate.
By “similar fate,” are you referring to death or having their bodies gawked at while they decayafter death? Can you see how these are two different things?
The “protecting family from trauma” theory does not explain why societies hung the bodies of criminals and traitors in public as gruesome reminders of how disgusting and unacceptable their behavior was. A “decent burial” is likewise a social signal of reward for honorable conduct, e.g. in a battlefield.
If you see the body of a criminal hung by a roadside, you will be deterred from embarking on a life of crime yourself, if you still have some social attachments, such as a family; more so than if you see that criminal being given a decent trial, execution and burial.
On the other hand, choosing to be a criminal or a traitor is already choosing a low-status social position: it’s legitimate to be skeptical of the supposed power of the mere status threat of having your body mangled, compared to the very real risk of being hunted down and killed which inheres to the social position of criminal in the first place.
This is one more instance where I suspect status of being used as a fake explanation.
The status threat is in addition to being killed. In other words, once the society has already exercised the option of killing you they would also attempt to destroy your credibility and dehumanize you by publicly displaying your rotting carcass.
This is obviously supposed to be an additional deterrent above and beyond being killed. It makes a huge amount of sense that this would be because you can’t rationalize it as easily by thinking “hey even if I’m caught and killed at least I’ll be remembered as a pretty cool guy”. It makes no sense in the context of the tender feelings of family and friends of the criminal. Also, I’d be willing to bet the criminals most likely to suffer such a fate are high-status ones whose exploits are most legendary—the revolutionaries and traitors, more than common criminals.
Another obvious reason to think corpse treatment is a status symbol is the amount of care given to the bodies of kings and emperors, and as I’ve mentioned, fallen warriors. It’s like the reason people buy bigger houses. On the surface, yes it provides a little more comfort for their family. But when it comes down to it, they do it primarily to signal their status.
The status threat is in addition to being killed. In other words, once the society has already exercised the option of killing you they would also attempt to destroy your credibility and dehumanize you by publicly displaying your rotting carcass.
This is obviously supposed to be an additional deterrent above and beyond being killed. It makes a huge amount of sense that this would be because you can’t rationalize it as easily by thinking “hey even if I’m caught and killed at least I’ll be remembered as a pretty cool guy”. It makes no sense in the context of the tender feelings of family and friends of the criminal. Also, I’d be willing to bet the criminals most likely to suffer such a fate are high-status ones whose exploits are most legendary—the revolutionaries and traitors, more than common criminals.
Another obvious reason to think corpse treatment is a status symbol is the amount of care given to the bodies of kings and emperors, and as I’ve mentioned, fallen warriors. It’s like the reason people buy bigger houses. On the surface, yes it provides a little more comfort for their family. But when it comes down to it, they do it primarily to signal their status.
As a deterrent, obviously.
“Deterrent” has no explanatory power. It’s just a label. You need to consider why a person would be deterred by it.
Through not wanting to be hung, I should think.
Why not want to be hung after death? Your body cannot feel anything at that point.
Societies previously “hung the bodies of criminals and traitors in public”—so those watching them being hanged were deterred from committing similar crimes and suffering the same fate.
By “similar fate,” are you referring to death or having their bodies gawked at while they decay after death? Can you see how these are two different things?
Death. The gawking is publicity—without which the deterrent is less effective.
Without the public display, people will not have seen it with their own eyes.