I think your analysis of “you’re only X because of Y” is missing the “you are doing it wrong” implicit accusation in the statement. Basically, the implied meaning, I think, is that while there are acceptable reasons to X, you are lacking any of them, but instead your reason for X is Y, which is not one of the acceptable reasons. Which is why your Z is a defense—claiming to have reasons in the acceptable set. And another defense might be to respond entirely to the implied accusation and explain why Y should be an OK reason to X. “You’re only enjoying that movie scene because you know what happened before it”—“Yeah, and what’s wrong with that?”
If I’m doing X wrong (in some way), it’s helpful for me to notice it. But then I notice I’m confused about when decoupling context is the “correct” thing to do, as exemplified in the post.
Rationalists tend to take great pride in decoupling and seeing through narratives (myself included), but I sense there might be some times when you “shouldn’t”, and they seem strangely caught up with embeddedness in a way.
I think your analysis of “you’re only X because of Y” is missing the “you are doing it wrong” implicit accusation in the statement. Basically, the implied meaning, I think, is that while there are acceptable reasons to X, you are lacking any of them, but instead your reason for X is Y, which is not one of the acceptable reasons. Which is why your Z is a defense—claiming to have reasons in the acceptable set. And another defense might be to respond entirely to the implied accusation and explain why Y should be an OK reason to X. “You’re only enjoying that movie scene because you know what happened before it”—“Yeah, and what’s wrong with that?”
Yes, this is the interpretation.
If I’m doing X wrong (in some way), it’s helpful for me to notice it. But then I notice I’m confused about when decoupling context is the “correct” thing to do, as exemplified in the post.
Rationalists tend to take great pride in decoupling and seeing through narratives (myself included), but I sense there might be some times when you “shouldn’t”, and they seem strangely caught up with embeddedness in a way.