It’s important to note that the only person who can determine how much a situation satisfies their values, is that person. I think a lot of alignment proposals have as a subtle underlying assumption that someone (or some set of someones) is going to be making decisions for everyone else. I think a world where that is the case has already been lost. I’m not sure to what extent these suggestions are examples of that, but they feel similar to me.
Btw, your vision of utopia on your website sounds roughly identical to mine which I’ve been thinking about for roughly ten years now. I am bad at writing in an organized way (and I constantly improve my understanding of things) so I’ve never written it up, but it might be nice for you and I to talk. In particular I’ve lately been thinking deeply about the ethics of consent and the need for counterfactual people (particularly the unborn and the dead) to have enforced rights—and the structures you call “nonperson forces” (I’d call them egregores) I consider to possibly have moral rights as well. I would really love to be able to think about all this stuff with you.
It’s important to note that the only person who can determine how much a situation satisfies their values, is that person. I think a lot of alignment proposals have as a subtle underlying assumption that someone (or some set of someones) is going to be making decisions for everyone else. I think a world where that is the case has already been lost. I’m not sure to what extent these suggestions are examples of that, but they feel similar to me.
Btw, your vision of utopia on your website sounds roughly identical to mine which I’ve been thinking about for roughly ten years now. I am bad at writing in an organized way (and I constantly improve my understanding of things) so I’ve never written it up, but it might be nice for you and I to talk. In particular I’ve lately been thinking deeply about the ethics of consent and the need for counterfactual people (particularly the unborn and the dead) to have enforced rights—and the structures you call “nonperson forces” (I’d call them egregores) I consider to possibly have moral rights as well. I would really love to be able to think about all this stuff with you.