Quote voice seems to “win” this exchange, but I think there are 3 things it is missing: 1. I can’t know someone else’s joy level with certainty, but despite quote voice accusing unquote voice of having problems taking joy in the real—I don’t hear the joy in quote voice (save for the last reply). Maybe QV is just using “joy in the real” as an applause light instead of actually practicing it. 2. “And you claim to be surprised by this?”—Lack of surprise may be a symptom of having a perfect model of the world, but more often it is a symptom of not actually predicting with your model. For mortals, surprise at the real state of things should be a common occurrence—it is akin to admitting fallibility. Perhaps more importantly, in this conversation, it seems to be shutting down curiosity. 3. Even after the call-out on “explain any possible human behavior”, QV continues to use “well it has to [work] somehow” to imply “my specific model of the world is correct”. If UQV was arguing for magic or theism, then these responses would make sense, but as is, they seem like a way to avoid admitting “I don’t know”.
Quote voice seems to “win” this exchange, but I think there are 3 things it is missing:
1. I can’t know someone else’s joy level with certainty, but despite quote voice accusing unquote voice of having problems taking joy in the real—I don’t hear the joy in quote voice (save for the last reply). Maybe QV is just using “joy in the real” as an applause light instead of actually practicing it.
2. “And you claim to be surprised by this?”—Lack of surprise may be a symptom of having a perfect model of the world, but more often it is a symptom of not actually predicting with your model. For mortals, surprise at the real state of things should be a common occurrence—it is akin to admitting fallibility. Perhaps more importantly, in this conversation, it seems to be shutting down curiosity.
3. Even after the call-out on “explain any possible human behavior”, QV continues to use “well it has to [work] somehow” to imply “my specific model of the world is correct”. If UQV was arguing for magic or theism, then these responses would make sense, but as is, they seem like a way to avoid admitting “I don’t know”.