How many people do you estimate that a nich interest group’s workshops with a ~2000$ barrior to entry would have a mania/bipolar episode?
As AnnaSalmon stated earlier she spent probably 200 hours and CFAR has about 1800 participants with ~2 known cases of mania/bipolar episode. If you don’t think she knows of all the mania/bipolar cases in CFAR participants. If she gets to know than 2 people per hour CFAR would still be in the range of how much bipolar/mania episodes would trigger I would expect from an event of this size.
First post! hopefully I didn’t mess up any formatting or my calculations.
Without looking anything up, I would expect approximately zero cases where the contents of the workshop were themselves implicated (as opposed to something like drug use, or a bipolar person who has periodic manic episodes happens to have one). Maybe I’m wrong about this!
I also don’t think that the immediate context of the workshop is the only relevant period here, but I concede that the reported numbers were less than I had expected.
This is hard to talk about because a lot of my reaction is based on rumors I’ve heard, and a felt sense that Something Is Wrong. I’m able to put a name to 5 such incidents (just checked), which include a suicide and an attempted murder, and have heard of several more where I know less detail, or which were concerning in a similar way but not specifically psychosis/mania. I was not close enough to any such events to have a very complete picture of what actually happened, but I believe it was the first psychotic episode (i.e. no prior history) in the 5 cases I can name. (And in fairness to CFAR, none of the cases I can think of happened at a CFAR workshop as far as I know.) I inferred (incorrectly, it seems) from Anna’s original post that psychosis had happened somewhat regularly at past workshops.
I’ve only heard of two instances of something like this ever in any other community I’ve been a part of.
Hi there, I’m curious to what rate of psychosis or attitude do you predict from a medium sized workshop event for a niche interest group such as CFAR?
Given the following base rates
How many people do you estimate that a nich interest group’s workshops with a ~2000$ barrior to entry would have a mania/bipolar episode?
As AnnaSalmon stated earlier she spent probably 200 hours and CFAR has about 1800 participants with ~2 known cases of mania/bipolar episode. If you don’t think she knows of all the mania/bipolar cases in CFAR participants. If she gets to know than 2 people per hour CFAR would still be in the range of how much bipolar/mania episodes would trigger I would expect from an event of this size.
First post! hopefully I didn’t mess up any formatting or my calculations.
Without looking anything up, I would expect approximately zero cases where the contents of the workshop were themselves implicated (as opposed to something like drug use, or a bipolar person who has periodic manic episodes happens to have one). Maybe I’m wrong about this!
I also don’t think that the immediate context of the workshop is the only relevant period here, but I concede that the reported numbers were less than I had expected.
This is hard to talk about because a lot of my reaction is based on rumors I’ve heard, and a felt sense that Something Is Wrong. I’m able to put a name to 5 such incidents (just checked), which include a suicide and an attempted murder, and have heard of several more where I know less detail, or which were concerning in a similar way but not specifically psychosis/mania. I was not close enough to any such events to have a very complete picture of what actually happened, but I believe it was the first psychotic episode (i.e. no prior history) in the 5 cases I can name. (And in fairness to CFAR, none of the cases I can think of happened at a CFAR workshop as far as I know.) I inferred (incorrectly, it seems) from Anna’s original post that psychosis had happened somewhat regularly at past workshops.
I’ve only heard of two instances of something like this ever in any other community I’ve been a part of.