I don’t consider the second point a disagreement, since we’re both sort of ambivalent. I’m pretty sure there are people who would think I’m unambiguously wrong not to be signed up, and they’re who I was looking for.
On the first point—this actually seems substantial, maybe worth pursuing. I think initial-distribution measures carry a substantial risk of backfiring and making the poor poorer, while redistribution does not—seems hard to expect the same results if this is the case. This isn’t necessarily a crux for me, but I’ll hear more about your position before I try to find a proper DC.
If I believed this to be true I think I would take your position. But because you would not change your mind if you believed this was false I too, do not believe this counts as the crux of our disagreement.
I’ll give it a shot this time. My proposed crux is that much of what we believe about the causes of poverty (crime… ect. ) are likely false in such a way that we are completely missing something conceptual in our models (including the one you stated above) or the causes are more powerful than our greatest operational intitutions can influence. (Age, genetics, ect)
I don’t consider the second point a disagreement, since we’re both sort of ambivalent. I’m pretty sure there are people who would think I’m unambiguously wrong not to be signed up, and they’re who I was looking for.
On the first point—this actually seems substantial, maybe worth pursuing. I think initial-distribution measures carry a substantial risk of backfiring and making the poor poorer, while redistribution does not—seems hard to expect the same results if this is the case. This isn’t necessarily a crux for me, but I’ll hear more about your position before I try to find a proper DC.
If I believed this to be true I think I would take your position. But because you would not change your mind if you believed this was false I too, do not believe this counts as the crux of our disagreement.
I’ll give it a shot this time. My proposed crux is that much of what we believe about the causes of poverty (crime… ect. ) are likely false in such a way that we are completely missing something conceptual in our models (including the one you stated above) or the causes are more powerful than our greatest operational intitutions can influence. (Age, genetics, ect)