It is physically impossible. The AI would have know the exact state of every atom on earth and every photon that has left earth in order to recreate you. And that’s doubly impossible because of quantum effects.
And that’s doubly impossible because of quantum effects.
I question this part. Regardless of what quantum model you’re using, it’s logically impossible for there to be an unobservable aspect of my brain that’s still relevant to my identity.
From the perspective of someone looking back at the past, measurement erases information. So when the dirt measures your brain, some of the information about what those atoms were doing before—position, momentum, spin, etc. is erased.
Example: If you take a bunch of spin-up atoms and measure them along the left-right axis, they will no longer be spin-up. Measurement erased the information that was there before. Similar principles are what make quantum cryptography work—if I sent you a spin-up atom and then a spin-right atom as the key, the attacker doesn’t know which axis to measure for which atom, so they end up erasing part of the information when they measure the key.
In the quantum cryptography case, the attacker can be said to have “lost information” in the measuring because the sender still has that information (and the receiver has half of it, if I remember correctly). So it’s still relevant. But for a datum about the brain to be lost irrecoverably, it has to have never affected anything, including macroscopic facts about my brain, and it cannot have been determined by any macroscopic facts about my brain. Which means the datum never actually existed.
It exists only statistically—information seems to be more like entropy than like energy. That’s quantum mechanics. If you measure an atom to have spin up, it COULD be because it was alway spin up, or it could be that it was spin anything-but-down and you just got lucky. You might say “but since the fact that it was spin-x didn’t affect the result, how do we know it existed at all?” Well, that’s what bell’s inequality is for, basically. The data in your brain isn’t a hidden variable, it’s part of the quantum state, and so is subject to being messed with when measured.
Good point. Still, the goodness of the reconstruction should diverge really quickly if you don’t measure every single particle on earth, at least a decent time into the future. Earth is a pretty chaotic system, after all.
It is physically impossible. The AI would have know the exact state of every atom on earth and every photon that has left earth in order to recreate you. And that’s doubly impossible because of quantum effects.
I question this part. Regardless of what quantum model you’re using, it’s logically impossible for there to be an unobservable aspect of my brain that’s still relevant to my identity.
From the perspective of someone looking back at the past, measurement erases information. So when the dirt measures your brain, some of the information about what those atoms were doing before—position, momentum, spin, etc. is erased.
Example: If you take a bunch of spin-up atoms and measure them along the left-right axis, they will no longer be spin-up. Measurement erased the information that was there before. Similar principles are what make quantum cryptography work—if I sent you a spin-up atom and then a spin-right atom as the key, the attacker doesn’t know which axis to measure for which atom, so they end up erasing part of the information when they measure the key.
In the quantum cryptography case, the attacker can be said to have “lost information” in the measuring because the sender still has that information (and the receiver has half of it, if I remember correctly). So it’s still relevant. But for a datum about the brain to be lost irrecoverably, it has to have never affected anything, including macroscopic facts about my brain, and it cannot have been determined by any macroscopic facts about my brain. Which means the datum never actually existed.
It exists only statistically—information seems to be more like entropy than like energy. That’s quantum mechanics. If you measure an atom to have spin up, it COULD be because it was alway spin up, or it could be that it was spin anything-but-down and you just got lucky. You might say “but since the fact that it was spin-x didn’t affect the result, how do we know it existed at all?” Well, that’s what bell’s inequality is for, basically. The data in your brain isn’t a hidden variable, it’s part of the quantum state, and so is subject to being messed with when measured.
This looks like a fascinating concept that I’ll have to read up on.
“You” is rather fungible. There are lots of mes out there that are close enough to me that I would identify with their conscious experience.
Are you sure you aren’t Clippy? Just how many paperclips could we trade a Manfred for? ;)
I meant the generic you, not specifically Manfred. I edited the italics to quotes to indicate this.
Good point. Still, the goodness of the reconstruction should diverge really quickly if you don’t measure every single particle on earth, at least a decent time into the future. Earth is a pretty chaotic system, after all.